If the video player actually worked for anything, it would be a problem. But it doesn't and therefore it isn't.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:10 AM, Lodewijk <[email protected]>wrote: > I assume that you, before sending this email to a mailing list that is not > exactly technical in nature, have submitted bug reports about this on > bugzilla so that the technical magicians can actually fix it? I'm confident > they would appreciate any constructive input. > > Best regards, > > Lodewijk > > No dia 11 de Outubro de 2011 12:25, Teofilo <[email protected] > >escreveu: > > > I have learnt this morning that the "Timedmedia" extension "is not yet > > installed on wikimedia sites, but its meant to replace the existing > > player" (1). > > > > As I was uploading videos, and needed some specific tools, I happened > > the other day to use the mwEmbed gadget on Wikimedia Commons which > > seems to be a prefiguration of what the WMF plans to install > > everywhere on its sites. My experience as guinea pig of that > > experiment is negative: > > > > Clicking on the "i" option of the polar bear video inserted on commons > > village pump (2) produces the following screenshot: > > > > > http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/File:Screenshot_of_commons_village_pump.jpg > > (3). What the video viewer can read is "Credits: Title : > > File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv Kaltura". This is not a proper > > way of providing author name (which should be Nehrams2020 ) and > > license (which should be Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 > > Unported license with a link). The "share" menu provides "< i frame > > src = " // > > > commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv?withJS=MediaWiki:MwEmbed.js&embedplayer=yes > > " > > width="220" height="165" frameborder="0" >< /iframe > ". There is no > > "Attribution" code similar to the one you can find when clicking on > > "Use this file" on the photostock toolbar on the Commons description > > page (4). The small polar bear icon displayed in the "i" option of the > > "menu" is too small (it is only about 50x30px, while the standard > > "thumb" size is 220px!). Using the full 220px rectangle as a link is > > the way by which we tell readers/viewers that the Commons description > > page is an important page. Most users will not be aware that they may > > click on that 50x30px icon to find valuable information about the > > file. The File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv text is in grey color. > > This is not the standard way to make the viewer aware that it is a > > clickable link. Usually, clickable links are blue. This video player > > is putting the Wikimedia commons description page 3 clicks away from > > Wikipedia instead of just one (you must click on "menu", then on "i" > > then on "File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv"). If installed on > > Wikipedia, this gadget will not be an improvement, but a huge drawback > > for the quality of the relation between Wikipedia and Wikimedia > > Commons. Wikimedia Commons will be unknown from Wikipedia readers or > > seen as something far away. I guess a lot of people are going to > > believe that the person who deserves credit is the company named > > "Kaltura" instead of the real video creator. The "i" symbol is > > meaningless for people whose languages do not have the word > > "information" in their vocabularies. Even in English or in French > > "information" is vague and does not mean "credit" or "license" or > > "attribution". The efforts Wikimedia Commons has been doing on > > description pages (indicating the source of the file, provide a > > description, provide a date, provide categories to find related files, > > etc.) are put aside for the purpose of the promotion of the "Kaltura" > > brand name. And again a download link seems to be provided straight > > away from the "menu" even if the user has not made the effort to learn > > about the licensing conditions. > > > > (1) Michael Dale 2011-10-11 02:54:09 UTC > > https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31583 > > (2) > > > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#mwEmbed_gadget:_Videos_no_longer_properly_linked_to_description_pages_by_clicking_on_the_thumbnail > > (3) > > > http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/File:Screenshot_of_commons_village_pump.jpg > > (4) screenshot of "use this file" toolbar tool: > > > http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/File:Use_this_file_screenshot.jpg > > ( the "stockphoto.js" toolbar) > > > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
