Here, in Spain, we are talking about Wikidocumentals. I.e, documentals about wikipedia articles.
It will be easy: upload video cuts, and then all the GFDL work will fall upon production work, you know: voice, dubbing, visual effects... mashup... It's the same way to make a BBC documental about WWII. I think it will be a revolution. We are talking with professional schools because I think that collaborative production will be a new paradigma. And Schools don't want to make a commercial end-product, They're just ideas. 2011/10/11 Michael Dale <[email protected]> > Teofilo did open a bug, I tried to explain that the mwEmbed player > gadget is not identical to the mwEmbed player in the extension. The > Extension has a bit better handling of license i.e by default shows the > credit page on menu click and on clip end. The extension also does a bit > better job of parsing info templates. > > I agree that we could make licence info more predominate. There are > constraints of player size make it difficult to translate page based > templates into a the small player credit space. Keep in mind we don't > have monolithic licence tags or 'real structured data' for wikimedia > commons so its not trivial to translate licence info into different use > contexts. It may be possible to leverage some of the recent licence > template work, if anyone has suggestions on how to do that I am happy to > apply it. We do prominently link to the asset description page on clip end. > > peace, > michael > > On 10/11/2011 05:10 AM, Lodewijk wrote: > > I assume that you, before sending this email to a mailing list that is > not > > exactly technical in nature, have submitted bug reports about this on > > bugzilla so that the technical magicians can actually fix it? I'm > confident > > they would appreciate any constructive input. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Lodewijk > > > > No dia 11 de Outubro de 2011 12:25, Teofilo <[email protected] > >escreveu: > > > >> I have learnt this morning that the "Timedmedia" extension "is not yet > >> installed on wikimedia sites, but its meant to replace the existing > >> player" (1). > >> > >> As I was uploading videos, and needed some specific tools, I happened > >> the other day to use the mwEmbed gadget on Wikimedia Commons which > >> seems to be a prefiguration of what the WMF plans to install > >> everywhere on its sites. My experience as guinea pig of that > >> experiment is negative: > >> > >> Clicking on the "i" option of the polar bear video inserted on commons > >> village pump (2) produces the following screenshot: > >> > >> > http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/File:Screenshot_of_commons_village_pump.jpg > >> (3). What the video viewer can read is "Credits: Title : > >> File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv Kaltura". This is not a proper > >> way of providing author name (which should be Nehrams2020 ) and > >> license (which should be Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 > >> Unported license with a link). The "share" menu provides "< i frame > >> src = " // > >> > commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv?withJS=MediaWiki:MwEmbed.js&embedplayer=yes > >> " > >> width="220" height="165" frameborder="0" >< /iframe > ". There is no > >> "Attribution" code similar to the one you can find when clicking on > >> "Use this file" on the photostock toolbar on the Commons description > >> page (4). The small polar bear icon displayed in the "i" option of the > >> "menu" is too small (it is only about 50x30px, while the standard > >> "thumb" size is 220px!). Using the full 220px rectangle as a link is > >> the way by which we tell readers/viewers that the Commons description > >> page is an important page. Most users will not be aware that they may > >> click on that 50x30px icon to find valuable information about the > >> file. The File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv text is in grey color. > >> This is not the standard way to make the viewer aware that it is a > >> clickable link. Usually, clickable links are blue. This video player > >> is putting the Wikimedia commons description page 3 clicks away from > >> Wikipedia instead of just one (you must click on "menu", then on "i" > >> then on "File:PolarBearsPlayingSDZooFeb09.ogv"). If installed on > >> Wikipedia, this gadget will not be an improvement, but a huge drawback > >> for the quality of the relation between Wikipedia and Wikimedia > >> Commons. Wikimedia Commons will be unknown from Wikipedia readers or > >> seen as something far away. I guess a lot of people are going to > >> believe that the person who deserves credit is the company named > >> "Kaltura" instead of the real video creator. The "i" symbol is > >> meaningless for people whose languages do not have the word > >> "information" in their vocabularies. Even in English or in French > >> "information" is vague and does not mean "credit" or "license" or > >> "attribution". The efforts Wikimedia Commons has been doing on > >> description pages (indicating the source of the file, provide a > >> description, provide a date, provide categories to find related files, > >> etc.) are put aside for the purpose of the promotion of the "Kaltura" > >> brand name. And again a download link seems to be provided straight > >> away from the "menu" even if the user has not made the effort to learn > >> about the licensing conditions. > >> > >> (1) Michael Dale 2011-10-11 02:54:09 UTC > >> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31583 > >> (2) > >> > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#mwEmbed_gadget:_Videos_no_longer_properly_linked_to_description_pages_by_clicking_on_the_thumbnail > >> (3) > >> > http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/File:Screenshot_of_commons_village_pump.jpg > >> (4) screenshot of "use this file" toolbar tool: > >> > http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/File:Use_this_file_screenshot.jpg > >> ( the "stockphoto.js" toolbar) > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> foundation-l mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > foundation-l mailing list > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > > > _______________________________________________ > foundation-l mailing list > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l > _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
