On 3 November 2011 12:53, Nathan <[email protected]> wrote: > I > wish we didn't always have to dispense with this tired argument that > making editing easier will inundate the projects with idiots. Easy and > open editing is the ethos that built the whole project.
Yes. All arguments of this form are saying "newbies are fundamentally a problem." This is what I mean by the newbie hostility of the incumbents as the big barrier. "Making editing easier will lead to backlogs!" = "newbies are a problem" "Making adding references easier will lead to backlogs!" = "newbies are a problem" "Letting people create pages will make work!" = "newbies are a problem" As Kim notes, it's project-wide adminitis. I don't have a ready solution - you can't just demand people be more welcoming and expect it to happen - but I think this is the key to the problem. - d. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l
