I'm not sure why this couldn't be done if that were all that is being
measured. I suspect there's other behaviors being tracked.
As I said, I'm not the person who knows most about this, so you have to
take what I am saying with a grain of salt.
On 2/4/12 5:21 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote:
Hi Brandon, thanks for the explanation, but wouldn't it be easier to just
analyse edit summaries? If you edit by section the edit summary defaults to
start with the section heading.......
Were SpielChequers
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Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:51:49 -0800
From: Brandon Harris<[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fw: Strike against the collection of
personal data through edit links
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(This may not be 100% accurate; the person who knows most about
this is
on vacation, but I'll try to explain to the best of my understanding.)
Those weird URLs are part of a clicktracking process. It's a test
to
see how people go about editing the page *most often* (by section, or by
edit tab) and further to see how effective various calls-to-action (such
as those given by Article Feedback) are.
The longevity of the data isn't something I can comment to but I'd
be
surprised if it lasted even 3 months. I do not know if there are
identity markers connected to them but I wouldn't be surprised.
To that end, the data is only useful in roll-ups, and wouldn't be
something published anywhere except in aggregate.
On 2/4/12 2:27 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote:
MZ is correct: 3 months is the purge for Checkuser data.
As to the rest of it, Diederick van Liere, our resident guru of data,
will
be checking into this, and will confirm back when we know exactly wht is
intended by the devs for that data. I will say that generally speaking,
the Foundation prefers to maintain the minimum data possible for the
shortest period of time.
Thanks,
pb
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On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, MZMcBride<[email protected]> wrote:
Fred Bauder wrote:
David Gerard wrote:
3 months I can live with :-) Can someone from WMF just confirm what
data
is kept for how long?
The exact time is confidential.
Err, no, I don't think so. It's not defined in the files at
<http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/>, which means it should be using the
default, as defined at
<
http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckU
ser.php?revision=106556&view=markup>. From that file:
---
# How long to keep CU data?
$wgCUDMaxAge = 3 * 30 * 24 * 3600; // 3 months
---
The last attempt to change this value (without community discussion) was
summarily shot down:
<http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revision&revision=40847
.
That's only CheckUser data, though. I'm not sure what David wants
confirmed
from the Wikimedia Foundation. Different data has different expiries. A
lot
of it is permanent (e.g., revisions aren't going anywhere for the most
part). I guess the question is specific to the ClickTracking extension:
<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ClickTracking>?
MZMcBride
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