The person running it is Dario Taraborelli, our chief research officer; he's currently on holiday. Hopefully we'll have more specifics soon - in the meantime I've started a new FAQ item at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_Feedback_Tool/Version_5/Help#What_are_the_new_phrases_like_.22articleFeedbackv5_click_tracking.22_in_the_URL_bar_on_some_articles.3F. I prepared it a couple of weeks ago; sorry for not putting it up until now.
On 5 February 2012 02:09, Brandon Harris <bhar...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > I'm not sure why this couldn't be done if that were all that is > being measured. I suspect there's other behaviors being tracked. > > As I said, I'm not the person who knows most about this, so you > have to take what I am saying with a grain of salt. > > > > On 2/4/12 5:21 PM, WereSpielChequers wrote: > >> Hi Brandon, thanks for the explanation, but wouldn't it be easier to just >> analyse edit summaries? If you edit by section the edit summary defaults >> to >> start with the section heading....... >> >> Were SpielChequers >> >> Message: 7 >> >>> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 2012 14:51:49 -0800 >>> From: Brandon Harris<bhar...@wikimedia.org> >>> To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org<foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fw: Strike against the collection of >>> personal data through edit links >>> Message-ID:<4F2DB685.70000@**wikimedia.org<4f2db685.70...@wikimedia.org> >>> > >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> >>> (This may not be 100% accurate; the person who knows most about >>> this is >>> on vacation, but I'll try to explain to the best of my understanding.) >>> >>> Those weird URLs are part of a clicktracking process. It's a test >>> to >>> see how people go about editing the page *most often* (by section, or by >>> edit tab) and further to see how effective various calls-to-action (such >>> as those given by Article Feedback) are. >>> >>> The longevity of the data isn't something I can comment to but I'd >>> be >>> surprised if it lasted even 3 months. I do not know if there are >>> identity markers connected to them but I wouldn't be surprised. >>> >>> To that end, the data is only useful in roll-ups, and wouldn't be >>> something published anywhere except in aggregate. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/4/12 2:27 PM, Philippe Beaudette wrote: >>> >>>> MZ is correct: 3 months is the purge for Checkuser data. >>>> >>>> As to the rest of it, Diederick van Liere, our resident guru of data, >>>> >>> will >>> >>>> be checking into this, and will confirm back when we know exactly wht is >>>> intended by the devs for that data. I will say that generally speaking, >>>> the Foundation prefers to maintain the minimum data possible for the >>>> shortest period of time. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> pb >>>> ___________________ >>>> Philippe Beaudette >>>> Head of Reader Relations >>>> Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. >>>> >>>> 415-839-6885, x 6643 >>>> >>>> phili...@wikimedia.org >>>> >>>> To check my email volume (and thus know approx how long it will take me >>>> >>> to >>> >>>> respond), go to http://courteous.ly/hpQmqy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 2:19 PM, MZMcBride<z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Fred Bauder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> David Gerard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> 3 months I can live with :-) Can someone from WMF just confirm what >>>>>>> >>>>>> data >>> >>>> is kept for how long? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> The exact time is confidential. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Err, no, I don't think so. It's not defined in the files at >>>>> <http://noc.wikimedia.org/**conf/ <http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/>>, >>>>> which means it should be using the >>>>> default, as defined at >>>>> < >>>>> >>>>> http://svn.wikimedia.org/**viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/** >>> extensions/CheckUser/CheckU<http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/extensions/CheckUser/CheckU> >>> >>>> ser.php?revision=106556&view=**markup>. From that file: >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> # How long to keep CU data? >>>>> $wgCUDMaxAge = 3 * 30 * 24 * 3600; // 3 months >>>>> --- >>>>> >>>>> The last attempt to change this value (without community discussion) >>>>> was >>>>> summarily shot down: >>>>> <http://svn.wikimedia.org/**viewvc/mediawiki?view=** >>>>> revision&revision=40847<http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki?view=revision&revision=40847> >>>>> >>>> . >>>> >>>>> >>>>> That's only CheckUser data, though. I'm not sure what David wants >>>>> >>>> confirmed >>> >>>> from the Wikimedia Foundation. Different data has different expiries. A >>>>> >>>> lot >>> >>>> of it is permanent (e.g., revisions aren't going anywhere for the most >>>>> part). I guess the question is specific to the ClickTracking extension: >>>>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/**wiki/Extension:ClickTracking<https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ClickTracking> >>>>> >? >>>>> >>>>> MZMcBride >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/** >>>>> mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> foundation-l mailing list >>>> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/** >>>> mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation >>> >>> Support Free Knowledge: >>> http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/Donate<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >> foundation-l mailing list >> foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> >> > > -- > Brandon Harris, Senior Designer, Wikimedia Foundation > > Support Free Knowledge: > http://wikimediafoundation.**org/wiki/Donate<http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate> > > ______________________________**_________________ > foundation-l mailing list > foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.**org <foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org> > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/foundation-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> > -- Oliver Keyes Community Liaison, Product Development Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l