Am 12.03.2012 23:14, schrieb Andrew Gray:
On 11 March 2012 00:23, David Gerard<[email protected]> wrote:
On 10 March 2012 22:15, Andrew Gray<[email protected]> wrote:
The image filter may not be a good solution, but too much of the
response involves saying "we're fine, we're neutral, we don't need to
do anything" and leaving it there; this isn't the case, and we do need
to think seriously about these issues without yelling "censorship!"
any time someone tries to discuss the problem.
There are theoretical objections, and then there are the actual objectors:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Main_Page#Gay_pornography
The objector here earnestly and repeatedly compares the words "gay
pornographic" in *text* on the page to images of child pornography.
Well, yes, and everyone else involved in that discussion is (at some
length) telling them they're wrong.
There are *other* actual objections, and ones with some sense behind
them; the unexpected Commons search results discussed ad nauseam, for
example. I don't think one quixotic and mistaken complaint somehow
nullifies any other objection people can make about entirely different
material...
At the same time we have a huge amount of search terms that give the
expected results, while we only see the examples where it goes wrong. I
remember that Andreas picked "drawing style" as an example.[1] Was this
just an coincidence? No it wasn't. He actually knew about an image that
I uploaded some time ago, he attacked it later on and now used it's file
description to construct an example.[2] That's how this examples are
created.
Additionally I proposed a solution for the search a while ago, that
would avoid any problems from both sides entirely.[3] If we, the board
or the foundation would put some heart into it, then we would have one
less problem, even so I don't see it as problem as it currently is. But
i would also benefit from this kind of improved search. (no tagging, no
rating, no extra work for users, still better)
[1]
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Controversial_content/Brainstorming#Buttons_to_switch_images_off_and_on
[2]
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:On_the_edge_-_free_world_version.jpg
[3]
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Requests_for_comment/improving_search#A_little_bit_of_intelligence
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