On Tue, 2008-10-28 at 20:05 +0100, xavier dutoit wrote:
> * CiviCRM: I did a long write-up on it. It has many great features.
> 
> Do you mind sending it (or a link) to it ? I'm afraid I missed it and
> can't find it in the archive.
> 
> X+

http://lists.flossfoundations.org/pipermail/foundations-software/Week-of-Mon-20081020/000029.html

> Absolutely, but the "producer" side isn't the only issue, and the
> choice of language has also an impact on the hosting cost, and based
> on my experience, most NGOs are already on a cheap LAMP hosting, and
> they'd be reluctant to take a more expensive hosting that cope with
> java, or custom C/cgi or whatever needing a dedicated/virtual server.

I have already explained that OffstageArts is a two-tier application
with the client launched off the web via Java Web Start (no server-side
Java required).  And the server is a plain jane PostgreSQL database.
Hosting for OA (or any other system with similar architecture) will be
provided over the Internet by running a server with:
 a) A PostgreSQL server
 b) An SSL tunnel adapter, used to conect to the server.  It both
encrypts communication and prevents random people from hitting the
PostgreSQL port.  This adapter can be SSH, if you like.  (This scheme is
probably more secure to remote vulnerabilities than a PostgreSQL
database with phpPgAdmin in front of it).

Because this kind of hosting is much simpler than LAMP hosting (and
doesn't require the host to know or care which version of OA is being
run), it will actually be very cheap to provide.  I'm aiming for an
on-line service to be able to offer it for $10/mo per database.  In this
way, NPOs won't have to install anything, not even on their cheap LAMP
hosting.

> Moreover, being able to integrate with their existing website (eg.
> SSO, or donation widget, or registration to event/mailing list...) is
> something that makes it easier for them to adopt a donor DB. CiviCRM
> integrates with drupal and joomla directly (unfortunately, I don't
> like neither of them ;), and some NGOs have choosen this to manage
> their contacts because of that.

OA will have web components to it for these purposes.  They have not
been written yet, and can obviously be written in any platform that
makes sense.  But just because you access your back office data from a
desktop front-end does not mean you can't also have customer-facing web
portions.

There are many ways to integrate this kind of stuff with a website.

-- Bob


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