FYI,

Refurbished Sun Ultra30 boxes can be had for about $3,500 and Ultra5 for
about $1,200.




                                                                                       
                                           
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You can pick up a refurbished SUN SPARC 5 180 MHz box for about $1000, or a
110 MHz for about $600.  This is the faster 51B box, and the 180 MHz should
be pretty snappy.  We upgraded from 51A to 51B (old 85 MHz boxes) and saw a
big improvement.  I don't know exactly what else you need, but make sure
you
get a TurboGX frame buffer card (I know these are Foxboro OEM and will
work).  Also, load up on memory - 128 MB minimum.

I know not the legalities involved, but technically this will work.

Gaylon Hicks
TVA - Browns Ferry NP

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     From:  Davis, Robert N.[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
     Sent:  Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:02 PM
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     Subject:  FW: Upgrading Foxboro Boxes

     This note came to me from our Decatur plant.  Any suggestions?

     We are looking at a problem that is going to be experienced by other
plants
     in the future. We have a Foxboro I/A system here on our Cogen plant.
We have
     AW51s (A series) and V6.1 software. We recently installed the OSI PI
system
     onto one of our AW51s. What was already a slow box has become almost
     unusable. We have received a lot of complaints from the plant
operators -
     especially about the graphic call up speed.

     We have talked about upgrading the boxes to the latest AW51s (series
D or E)
     to speed things up. Unfortunately we are being quoted $100,000 by
Foxboro.
     What makes this worse is that we know we can buy the boxes from Sun
direct
     for 30% of the Foxboro price and Foxboro are charging us $50,000 for
     software licenses. Foxboro are not being very helpful at this time.
When we
     proposed buying the boxes from Sun, Foxboro refused to support these
boxes.

     We are wondering if it is technically possible to buy the new boxes
from Sun
     and try to load the existing software on ourselves. This would mean
that we
     are using the same software licenses but should get a better
performance. We
     have asked Foxboro about this and been told that it is not possible
because
     we need to buy new licenses from Sun. We have asked Sun about this
and they
     have told us that we do not need new licenses but they do not know
if this
     would work.

     Does anyone have any thoughts/experience in this matter. Is this
possible or
     are we missing something somewhere?

     All comments gratefully received


     Bob Davis
     Process Control Engineer
     765-477-5317---Fax 765-474-9036
     E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]








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