Jacklyn,

This discussion is really between Gary and his Snaz contest photo team.
Please take this topic off the FPBAA list and try to resolve amongst your
selves. After some "personal disagreements" in the past, that I  have had
with others on different topics on the forums myself, it really is boring
to most, since they can do nothing about it. Please take no offence by this
suggestion and observation and try to resolve this privately with Gary and
his crew. I know they all work hard to "get it right" and I know you take
your painting very seriously and do a good job of it as well. Just know
that BOTH sides are doing their best.

Sincerely,
Cynthia Keeler, Editor FPBA Magazine
www.fpbamagazine.com

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> [Original Message]
> From: jacklyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Face Painting and Body Art Association <[email protected]>
> Date: 9/16/2008 5:35:38 AM
> Subject: [fpba-assn] Re: part 2: how to make sure your photo does not
lookedited?
>
>
> By the way, a friend of mine who is a professional photographer zoomed
> it in. He said: wel its a kid, so he does not have so much hair on his
> schoulders, but I can clearly see some fine hairs sticking out. And
> around the feathers it clearly has not been edited.
> And than a word to all of those who are convinced my photo has been
> edited and especially those who helped Gary with their so called
> expert opinion on the matter:  Do not call yourself an expert on this
> area. Because they are wrong!!!!!!!! its not edited in anyway, not
> even in contrast or all the other "excepted things".
> Stick with the things you really know something about!!!!
> If it looks like its beeing edited it does NOT give you the right to
> say its edited if your not absolutly 100% sure your right( which was
> said to me in the rejectionnote!) I told you I did not edited it,send
> in more pictures to prove it, that should be enough.You are accusing
> me to be a liar, to me thats unexceptional behavoir unless you have
> prove.
>
> Sorry,but some manners would be appropriate is this matter. You could
> also say: we have our doubs of it not beeing adited and we have to
> refuse the picture because of that. Instead it says: It appears to
> multiple people that the photo was digitally enhanced. In other words
> you altered the image. If you have an original photo with no editing
> then we would reconsider accepting the photo for this contest since it
> demonstrates very good body painting.
>
> Thats accusing someone without any prove, unexceptable.
> manners manners.
>
>
> On Sep 16, 8:28 am, "Magic Faces Belgie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > hallo,
> >
> > Thank you, I had trown it away. But I looked it up again now that my
picture has been formaly rejected. I should have looked it up before
because you can see clearly the curtainfolds behind the boy. Maybe I should
try to send in this version.
> > I think I will.
> >
> > Vriendelijke groeten/kind regards
> > Jacklyn Suiskens
> > Grimeerstudio Magic Faces
> >
> > Stop de WAUW- factor in Uw evenement!
> >
> > SintJanstraat 16E
> > 2323 Wortel België
> > Tel    0032 3 2957841
> > GSM 0032 473 722518
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Kristi L. Darby
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [email protected]
> >   Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 8:16 PM
> >   Subject: RE: [fpba-assn] part 2: how to make sure your photo does not
look edited?
> >
> >   Jacklyn,
> >
> >   To play "devil's advocate," Do you have the picture before it was
cropped up-close?  The first 2 photos you're showing are 2 different ones -
The questioned photo, and then a different pose.
> >
> >   Cheers,
> >
> >   Kristi Darby
> >
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> >
> >   From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Magic Faces Belgie
> >   Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 2:38 AM
> >   To: [email protected]
> >   Subject: [fpba-assn] part 2: how to make sure your photo does not
look edited?
> >
> >   Hello you all,
> >
> >   First of all I want to say I'm sorry to Gary. It was not my intention
to attack him in any way. I just said his name because its a competition we
al know and I just wanted to know if anybody else is refused on a regulair
base because of editing they did not do. (Got a lot of mails anserwing that
question, so I'm far from beeing the only one, that allready makes me feel
a lot better;0). But you guys are right, I should have kept that in
between, had nothing to do with my real question: I wanted to know how to
solve the problem. I wrote it in frustration, I was so happy with the
beautifull pictures, it was a project that I wanted to do for a long time,
I did the whole paint in only 4 hours and turned out great. And the photos
turned out fab too. My best work ever and then they get refused!!!
> >   A lot of people now told me that it does looks edited and there is my
problem because its not. I never edit my photo if I send them into a
competition. I think thats fooling yourself. And this photo I did not need
to edit for my website either, because it was perfect the way it was.
> >
> >   I had to use a lesser flash to keep the wolf from turning all white,
the backdrop became to uniform and looks edited
> >
> >   Just one person gave me a tip in how to avoid these circomstances and
thats to make sure you light the background. The painting is the most
important thing offcourse, it has to pop up the way I drawn it. Sometimes
with a very light drawing I use daylightlamps on the ouside, and it does
show the background more. I never took any notice, because I use the lamps
only to be able to photograph the colors just the way they are. So now I
know should use them every time to make sure you can see the background is
a backdrop.
> >
> >   It was not my attention to make it personal. I wanted to adres a
problem which I think is going to be there all the time.
> >   My husband now has figured out how to use the camera in such a way
that the colors pop out the way I have drawn them, my pictures are perfect
now and do not need any editing. And I like the uniform looking background.
But now I have a new problem: it looks edided, very frustrating.
> >
> >   Now I should make two kinds of pictures: The ones in which you can
see the background in details for competition and the one with a uniform
background, which I like to have on my website.
> >
> >   So Gary, I like you, we have met in Orlando and went to diner with 6
of us. Its not about you, and I'm sorry it came out that way. You are right
to refuse edited pictures. I just got frustrated, thats all.
> >
> >   I have attached some more pictures of the paint, in which you can
clearly see my hand! And yes, for on my website I would make that hand
black. But I have enough pictures without the hand, so I do not need to.
> >
> >   I guess you can't see if its edited all the time, those pictures
prove that!  But how do you solve the problem without having to make a
lesser picture?????
> >
> >   I got one anserw, which I think makes a lesser picture because I like
the background to be uniform.
> >
> >   Anybody?
> >
> >   Vriendelijke groeten/kind regards
> >   Jacklyn Suiskens
> >   Grimeerstudio Magic Faces
> >
> >   Stop de WAUW- factor in Uw evenement!
> >
> >   SintJanstraat 16E
> >   2323 Wortel België
> >   Tel    0032 3 2957841
> >   GSM 0032 473 722518
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  www.magicfaces.be
> >
> >
> >
> >  detail indiandreams 3.JPG
> > 1927KViewDownload
> >
> >  P1090081.JPG
> > 3066KViewDownload- Hide quoted text -
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