On 14 Jan 2013, at 17:03, Martin wrote:

> On 14/01/2013 15:52, Jonas Maebe wrote:
>> 
>> On 14 Jan 2013, at 16:44, Martin wrote:
>> 
>>> This is casting a "set of bits" (neither signed, nor unsigned - a set is 
>>> not a number at all) into a number. This only needs to have a definition, 
>>> if it should cast to signed or unsigned type.
>> 
>> It has to be signed, because otherwise any negative number in the operation 
>> would trigger a range check error when it gets converted to a (larger) 
>> unsigned type. The nature of the operation that is used afterwards is 
>> irrelevant, range checking always operates in exactly the same way when 
>> performing a type conversion from one type to another. This is required to 
>> have predictable behaviour in a programming language.
> 
> not sure if I follow. If "or" performs on a "set of bits" (rather than a 
> number)

It doesn't operate on a set. The left and right operands are whole numbers, and 
hence the operator works on whole numbers and returns a whole number. In 
Pascal, sets and whole numbers are completely distinct types with different 
operators. There is no magic type conversion from integer to a set and back 
just because you use the "or" operator.


Jonas
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