This is a very interesting discussion, even though you all are trying to focus on Brimstone. I do agree with many of Andy's points. And I would only like to add that we each have 12 town meeting members in our own precincts, and many more in town meeting in general. That gives you numerous opportunities to convince someone of your point-of-view, well beyond one representative (as Peter mentioned did not take his views into account). I am a TMM from precinct 3 and just devoted a good amount of effort over three years (and not done yet) representing a concern in precinct 11. I see other TMMs doing similarly for Framingham residents. If we had only one city council member for our entire district as our only representative, our options would be much more limited.
Thanks for the opportunity to add my 2 cents. Norma Shulman > From: "Peter C.S. Adams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2002/05/31 Fri AM 11:49:05 EDT > To: Andy Limeri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CC: Nicola Cataldo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joel A Feingold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Oh my God! Are you kidding? > > On Friday, May 31, 2002, at 09:59 AM, Andy Limeri wrote: > > fairly chummy with them. Town meeting is a far more > > independent and unpredictable organization that forces > > them to consider the average citizen's point of view. > > Well, I find the process to be pretty chummy now and don't find that "my" > town meeting member takes my point of view into account. I realize that's > supposed to be the idea, but it does work the same way in city government. > I've been to both town meeting and city council meetings and the only > difference is scale. > > > Town Meeting also forces the adminstration to be much > > more open in its processes and to explain their > > decisions in an open forum and in an understandable > > manner. > > Again, I simply do not find that this is the case. There are many ways to > bend the rules to your liking in town government, as well. I can provide > an example that still galls me if anyone is interested, but the point is > that cities can be just as responsive to their citizens as towns. > > > About the Firefighters. The trash fee and firefighters have nothing to > > do with each other. [...] The trash fee was a poor attempt by the > > selectmen and adminstration to have the final say over the firefighters > > by implementing a really bad idea. > > Sounds to me like they have everything to do with each other. The trash > fee would be a fine idea if it were implemented correctly. Many > municipalities charge residents BY THE POUND for trash. This would > encourage waste reduction and recycling. My family produces one SMALL bag > of trash per week, sometimes less. Why should I pay as much for trash as > neighbors who often put out three HUGE bags a week and no recycling? > > Maybe I shouldn't have responded to this... It's obvious there's no > immediate city movement coming and we have much more pressing matters to > discuss. Brimstone Lane, e.g. > > peter > > [ To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe > Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > For help send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web interface at http://frambors.syslang.net] > [ To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=unsubscribe Archives available at http://www.mail-archive.com/ For help send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web interface at http://frambors.syslang.net]
