Well,
I'd venture the minority opinion that I'd rather have the warning
messages display, even if they're a false warning... If I'm opening a
new document, I'd much rather know that I may be blowing away
structured info (the warning appears when you're opening a correctly
structured doc too, as far as I know) before I do it.
And... I think a key statement is: "If multiple people (with
differently set FM structure modes) are working with such documents, "
-- in most production environments, including those that include
routine translation, there should be tight enough control that only
one flavor of a program (in this case, the structured interface of FM
is in use).
Art
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On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Klaus Mueller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello Framers,
>
> Maybe someone of the FM9 beta participants could check
> this issue with the current version?
> (FM8 Structured does also write those structured book
> component information into unstructured MIF documents.)
>
> Thanks,
> Klaus
>
>
>
> --- Original Message ---
> From: Rick Quatro
> Date: 04.12.2008 19:00
>> Hi Klaus,
>>
>> Thanks for the information. I wasn't aware of these problems.
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Rick Quatro
>> Carmen Publishing Inc
>> 585-659-8267
>> www.frameexpert.com
>>
>>
>> Les, David, Rick,
>>
>>> You shouldn't encounter any problems working in an
>>> Unstructured (Standard) FM document while FrameMaker
>>> is set for Structured.
>>
>>> This is no problem whatsoever.
>>
>> Actually, I regularly encounter an annoying problem when
>> working with unstructured documents while FrameMaker is
>> set for Structured:
>> When saving unstructured documents with structured FM
>> as MIF and those MIFs are opened in unstructured FM,
>> the "Document is Structured" error message does occur.
>>
>> You can reproduce this the following way:
>> - Start FM in structured mode
>> - Create & save a new document
>> - Create & save a new book
>> - Add the document to the book
>> - Update the book
>> - Save the document as MIF
>> - Change the FM product interface to (unstructured) FrameMaker
>> - Restart FrameMaker
>> - Open the saved MIF file
>> => The follwing message does occur
>>
>>> This document contains structure information.
>>> The current interface does not read structure information.
>>> If you continue, the structure information will be
>>> removed. Editing and saving this document may result
>>> in a loss of information. [...]
>>> Options:
>>> (•) Open as View Only
>>> ( ) Open for Editing
>>> [Continue] [Cancel]
>>
>> If multiple people (with differently set FM structure modes)
>> are working with such documents, this can be pretty annoying,
>> because it is not obvious that this error message is
>> inaccurate and the document is actually unstructured.
>>
>> A 'usual' workflow in a translation environment:
>> - Person A does a quality check of the documents to translate
>> (with structured FM) and saves the docs as MIF.
>> - After translation into multiple languages, the layout
>> persons B, C and D are irritated because they get those
>> error messages.
>>
>> The error message is caused by the "DBookElementHierarchy /
>> ElementContext" entries in the "Document" node that are
>> written into the MIF file.
>>
>> When saving documents with FrameScript as MIF, there is
>> unfortunately no option to strip/suppress this gratuitous
>> structure information.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Klaus Müller, itl AG
>
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