John...

The mapping from elements and their context happens in the structure application's template (which contains an EDD). The EDD contains element definitions, which in turn contain context rules. The context rules specify the formatting (paragraph and character styles, or other specified properties). FrameMaker and DITA-FMx provide default structure applications that you can use as the basis for building your own customized apps. Rather than just jumping in and modifying the default apps, I highly recommend "cloning" them to create your own apps. This is a bit more effort, but in the long run is the best way to go. While customizing the apps, you will break something (we all do), and it's very important to have the original apps readily available for testing and comparison. Here's some information about cloning the default DITA-FMx apps (a similar process can be used to clone the default FM-DITA apps) ..

http://docs.leximation.com/dita-fmx/1.1/?ditafmx_cloningtapps.html

When you create a FM book from a DITA map using default FM-DITA, you save your ditamap as a "book with FM components". The chapter files are formatted with the current DITA structure application template (and underlying EDD). You can either use a customized app to get different formatting or you can import alternate templates into the files after the book has been created.

If you're using DITA-FMx, use the "Generate Book from Map" command. This performs various book-build operations (as defined in the Book Build Settings dialog). If you set up a book-build INI file, you can define the pagination and numbering properties of the chapter files as well as the properties of any generated lists you include in your bookmap. This INI file also lets you specify additional (unstructured) files to include in the generated book (like a title page or other files). As well .. if you have metadata in you map (like copyright or version information), you can specify that those values be imported into the generated and included files as FM variables. This video provides an overview of this process ..

http://blog.leximation.com/2010/03/pdf-publishing-with-dita-fmx-1-1/

Note that DITA-FMx 1.1 does not support DITA 1.2. When DITA-FMx 2.0 is available, that will support DITA 1.2. If you're using FM11, be sure to start with the DITA 1.1 apps or the default DITA-FMx apps as the basis for your customized apps.

When publishing to HTML-based output, it really depends on what tool you use, but the mapping would happen in that tool. DITA-FMx provides a direct integration with DITA2Go and the DITA-OT. If you have TCS and want to use RoboHelp, your best bet is to generate a book from the map, then import that book into RoboHelp (don't try the direct ditamap import into RH). (I would love to hear from anyone who has had success with the ditamap to RH import!)

Cheers,

...scott

On 12/1/12 7:33 AM, John Sgammato wrote:
But surely somehow the para tags get mapped to elements for PDF output?
When I publish a procedure to PDF, suppose I want the steps to have 0pt above, 6pt after, etc - the stuff I usually set up in the paragraph designer. How do the elements get that information en route to becoming a PDF? I want to know how to set that up, too. And then I want to publish the same content to HTML, with different presentation. Now that I separate the presentation form the structure, I have misplaced where the presentation layer went...
<still scratching head>
john

On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:03 AM, Rick Quatro <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi John,

    In a structured FrameMaker document, the users don't deal directly
    with
    paragraph (character, table) formats anyway, so there is no
    practical reason
    to delete any.

    Rick Quatro
    Carmen Publishing Inc.
    585-283-5045 <tel:585-283-5045>
    [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

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    I made great progress today. I was able to open the DITA files and
    get them
    pretty consistent with new master pages, etc.
    I see two issues right now that I cannot figure out:
    * I want to get rid of many, many paragraph formats that I won't
    need, but I
    don't know if it is safe to do that, or if it will break something.
    * I have many topics that I want to nest as H2s under H1s, etc,
    and I cannot
    see how to do that, but today was only my first day so I am sure I
    will get
    there.
    I am grateful for the progress I have made, but I wish I had some
    documentation!
    I tried the Yahoo group and Yahoo won't let me in with my old
    credentials -
    I'll resolve that tomorrow. It's getting late here in Boston!

    On Nov 29, 2012, at 7:16 PM, Writer <[email protected]
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