It depends on the quality and nature of the material that is being done in 
Word, the type of publication, how the graphics are composed, the uniformity 
(or lack thereof) of the Word files in question, etc. What you are proposing, 
in some cases might actually be more work, not less.

There is no one single solution. What works for one environment/workflow won't 
work for another.

Dan Harding
Technical Editorial Specialist
University of Illinois Tax School
419 Mumford Hall
1301 West Gregory Drive
Urbana, IL 61801
217-333-0935

From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2014 11:46 AM
To: Harding, Dan; framers
Subject: RE: Copying Word text to FM unstructured 12.

This seems like a way to create a lot of extra work. MIF washing after open a 
Word file in FM gets rid of a lot of Word anomalies. Removing the graphics 
leaves out placeholders that give clues as to the size and nature of the 
graphic to be used (and some graphics extracted from Word by the changing of 
.docx to .zip trick) will have lost added callouts, arrows, etc.

My advice, especially for longer documents would be to open the Word doc in FM, 
MIF wash and replace the graphics as need. I have a PDF of a series of steps I 
use to clean up such imports. If anybody is interested in that, send me a 
request off list. Start with a FM template the mimics your word style names to 
make things easy. You can change all the style names via scripts in FM mifs 
after the fact if you want new style names.

Thanks.

Craig
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From: dhard...@illinois.edu<mailto:dhard...@illinois.edu>
To: syed.hos...@aeris.net<mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>; 
hwinb...@hobartsystems.com<mailto:hwinb...@hobartsystems.com>; 
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Subject: RE: Copying Word text to FM unstructured 12.
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 13:37:12 +0000
My workflow from Word to FM doesn't use plain text, as I don't want to have to 
manually recreate footnotes (our content is footnote-heavy) or re-apply bold or 
italics within paragraphs. By the same token, I want to get rid of all of the 
Word-defined styles.

(There likely is a more elegant way to do this via MIF2GO, but I have not had 
time to investigate this yet, so I'm still doing it old-school.)

This doesn't get rid of 100% of the Word-inflicted anomalies, but I would posit 
that it gets rid of 90%+, while still retaining the above attributes.

1.       Save a copy of your Word file that has embedded graphics deleted 
(You'll want to re-place them in FM anyway). Depending on whether you are 
importing Word index markers or have round-tripped from FM to Word to FM, 
you'll want to experiment with backsaving .docx (Word 2010 & 2013) files to 
.doc (Word 2003 & 2007) format, as sometimes index markers fall by the wayside.
2.       Open a blank version of your FM template file.
3.       Import Word file into document (not by reference).
4.       Select all.
5.       Apply your default paragraph text style to entire document. This 
removes any Word-based paragraph styles from the majority of the text while 
retaining inline bold and italics.
6.       Wash via MIF.
7.       Global search <space><space> to <space>. Repeat until none are found. 
This will remove consecutive spaces.
8.       Global search <space>\p to \p. This removes any trailing spaces at the 
end of paragraphs.
9.       Global search \p<space> to \p. This removes any leading spaces at the 
beginning of paragraphs.
10.   Global search \p\p to \p. This removes consecutive blank lines. Repeat 
until none are found.

There will still be tidying to be done and re-application of non-text paragraph 
styles, but it's a good starting point.

Note: I don't know how tables import from Word to FM, as I use LaTeX to set all 
my tables and treat them as imported graphics in FM.


Dan Harding
Technical Editorial Specialist
University of Illinois Tax School
419 Mumford Hall
1301 West Gregory Drive
Urbana, IL 61801
217-333-0935

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Syed Zaeem Hosain 
(syed.hos...@aeris.net<mailto:syed.hos...@aeris.net>)
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 6:51 PM
To: Winberg, Harold; 
framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: RE: Copying Word text to FM unstructured 12.

What I like to do is save the Word file as "Plain Text" from Word 2013 ... this 
is one of the options within Word to output file formats.

This makes every paragraph in the Word document stay as a single line in the 
text file.

When I read this text file into FrameMaker, the single line converts 
automatically into a single paragraph again.

One other thing I do is turn hyphenation off inside Word - this avoid dash 
character inserts inside the words.

Finally, saving this way helps my em-dashs, smart-quotes, etc., also stay 
properly output into the text files (have to use the "Windows default" option 
when saving as text).

Much simpler to do this rather than having to do tons of post-edits to fix all 
the "special" characters.

Z

From: 
framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com>
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Winberg, Harold
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2014 10:25 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Copying Word text to FM unstructured 12.

Do I have to anything special when copying and pasting word into FM 12. I 
understand it should be plain text or it can retain a lot of Word garbage.

Does FM 12 take care of this or do I need to save or paste it as plain text??

Thanks

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