I'd buy it!

-bob

Robert Kern
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John Sgammato wrote:

>Does anyone know if there is a single procedure-oriented book that describes 
>how to migrate a typical Unstructured FrameMaker manual (book file, chapters, 
>Toc, etc) to Structured FrameMaker using DocBook and FrameMaker 7.2?
>I have a whole slew of assorted docs with a ton of information on background 
>and why this or that is important, and how to build a DTD and EDD and lots of 
>other stuff. 
>Surely someone somewhere has assembled the relevant information into something 
>more directly usable?
>I would love to find some doc that says: "You need these files in this 
>directory structure, and you will generate this and that, and in the end it 
>should look like so. Now to customize it to your needs, do this..."
> 
>john
>
>________________________________
>
>From: framers-bounces+jsgammato=imprivata.com at lists.frameusers.com on 
>behalf of Bernard Aschwanden
>Sent: Thu 1/5/2006 9:45 AM
>To: 'John Pitt'; framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: RE: Docbook and Frame 7.2
>
>
>
>A quick response is to ask if you have already printed and reviewed the 
>structure developers guide PDF that ships with FM. It's in the OnlineManuals 
>folder of the installation directory and is called Structure_Dev_Guide.pdf
>
>That's a pretty good start. As for some of the others... Depending on the time 
>you have available I can suggest that you get Kay Ethiers book "XML and 
>FrameMaker".
>
>In either case, look up the following:
>
>cols
>widths
>colsep
>rowsep
>frame
>tabstyle
>
>A sample of some of the table rules that you need to consider are in the 
>Structure_Dev_Guide.pdf file in the CALS table model. The big warning on 
>working with tables (thanks to Lynne Price for this one when it drove me nuts) 
>is to ensure that the DTD you are referencing also contains the attributes 
>required for properties such as the number of columns, their width, span 
>properties and so on. If not, then you don't get the right output. That drove 
>me crazy since I thought I had all of FM working right (and I did) but I 
>failed to get the table coded in the DTD correctly.
>
>If you are dealing with docbook then I strongly suggest starting with 
>read/write rules that knock out the 8317 elements you don't need and keeps the 
>stuff you find useful. I also found a ton of the attributes to be overkill and 
>dropped them as well.
>
>Hopefully this gets you started. If it's not enough and you are at the DITA 
>conference in March in North Carolina, look me up and we can run a test or two 
>(assuming it's not too late). Finally, there are enough consultants (myself 
>included) on this list that someone can always be hired to pitch in on the 
>project.
>
>All the best,
>
>Bernard
>
>
>
>Bernard Aschwanden
>Publishing Technologies Expert
>Publishing Smarter
>
>bernard at publishingsmarter.com
>
>www.publishingsmarter.com
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter.com at lists.frameusers.com 
>[mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter.com at lists.frameusers.com] 
>On Behalf Of John Pitt
>Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 5:34 AM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Docbook and Frame 7.2
>
>After successfully avoiding structured Frame for the last 14 or 15 years, I 
>now have a client who wants me to get DocBook xml produced from his product's 
>code into Frame. The end result is to be used for a number of manuals and 
>pushed through WebWorks ePublisher Pro.
>
>While my reservations about structured Frame were not *totally* unjustified -- 
>it is a very steep learning curve -- and many of the elements in my client's 
>xml are not accepted by Frame, I am making headway.
>
>But there are still many gaps in my knowledge; the most worrying being tables 
>that refuse to behave, and whitespace throughout. The latter "should" 
>(according to the Frame doco) be removed automagically, but they are not. What 
>does seem to work, paradoxically, is to remove all of the spaces in the xml 
>code!
>
>My questions. How do I:
>
>@ control column widths in tables?
>
>@ control the total width of tables?
>
>@ prevent the last column in multi-column tables appearing as the first column?
>
>@ remove whitespace elegantly?
>
>@ get Frame to accept the schema in the first two lines of the xml file?
>(I have tried many different versions, most of which should work, but Frame 
>invariably chokes).
>
>@ find an easily understandable guide to using DocBook/Frame? I have tried the 
>online doco that somes with 7.2 and got some benefits from the Steve Whitlatch 
>stuff on the net (and accelerated learning from Bernard Aschwanden's tutorial 
>-- thx again Bernard!)
>
>Not much is it? :)
>
>jjj
>
>
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