Yes, it is a footing row.  I found this when I attempted to delete the
figure caption. I got a message "Cannot remove all body rows from a
table that has heading or footing rows."  So, I see one alternative:
change the Table Title to "Above" and add the figure caption there, and
change the paragraph type in the footing row to another paragraph type
(without any autonumber, such as Anchor or Body).

This is doable, but cumbersome.  I was hoping for an easier/automatic

Yvonne Mills

-----Original Message-----
From: Ridder, Fred [] 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:55 PM
To: Yvonne Mills
Cc: framers at
Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location

Is it possible that the figure title has been put in a footing row?
Do you have the View>Borders option turned on? If so, do you
see a dotted box surrounding the figure title? That dotted border
would indicate that the paragraph is inside some *some* sort of 
table cell. And if that's the case, you'll need to select just the
contents rather than the whole cell (or row) when you attempt
to move the title. Then once you have the title where you want 
it (and if you have used a named style for the figure tables, my 
personal suggestion would be to use the Table Title frame since
you globally relocate all the titles from below the figures to above 
them just before you do your HTML conversion), you can delete 
the empty table row you left behind. 

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com)
Parsippany, NJ

-----Original Message-----
[ at] On
Behalf Of Yvonne Mills
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:40 PM
To: Art Campbell
Cc: framers at
Subject: RE: Changing the Figure Caption location

Tried the first one. There is No Title.
Checked the third one, None.
As far as the second one, I can't move it. I get a message saying
"Cannot remove all body rows from a table that has heading or footing
rows." I don't see any selections for heading/footing rows in the Table
designer except for the ruling/shading selections.

Yvonne Mills
Technical Writer 2

-----Original Message-----
From: Art Campbell [] 
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:08 PM
To: Yvonne Mills
Cc: framers at
Subject: Re: Changing the Figure Caption location

OK, three thoughts:

If you're using what would be the Table Title as your figure title,
the above/below
setting is a property on the Table Designer dialog box, Basic tab.
Ctrl-t, then
Title Position.

If that's set to No Title, though, you're using an unrelated tag to
handle the title.
You should be able to just select it and move it...

If you can't select and move the tag, I'd suspect that whatever
paragraph tag you're
using to anchor the figure table is referencing a frame on a reference
page... In that
para designe window, is there a setting on the Advanced tab for frame
above or below?


On 6/8/06, Yvonne Mills <Yvonne.Mills at> wrote:
> Hello all.
> I'm using FrameMaker (7.1p114, on PC with Win XP SP2) for my User's
> Guides then converting to HTML using WebWorks (the STANDARD version,
> PRO).
> In our template we have a Figure table that automatically puts "Figure
> n" under the graphic (with "n" being the auto number) each time we
> insert a figure table.
> In the print guide, it looks "normal" to have the figure caption under
> the graphic.  However, when converting to HTML, this doesn't seem
> When the user clicks on a link to the graphic, they don't see the
> graphic. This is because the link is pointed to the figure caption,
> the graphic. Sure, all the user has to do is scroll up, but I would
> to move the Figure caption to the top of the graphic.
> I vaguely remember this being discussed before.  I tried to search the
> archives, but didn't have much luck.  I'm sure it's something easy,
> although I looked at the Table Designer and figured I would simply
> the table title from below the table to above, but found that there
> _no_ table title.  I even (briefly) checked the Master and Reference
> pages and Frame's online help, but didn't find anything.
> Thanks in advance for your help.
> Regards,
> Yvonne Mills

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