Knowing what I know now, I agree with your assessment.
Steve Cavanaugh Sr. Technical Writer NAT Seattle Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Spreadbury, David [mailto:david.spreadb...@tellabs.com] Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:57 PM To: Steve Cavanaugh; framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: "MIF"ed Newbie Steve, I wouldn't have taken the MIF route to change the fonts. I would have gone through the Paragraph Designer and changed the Paragraph Tags so that they all called Arial instead of Helvetica. Then I would import the Paragraph Tags from the edited chapter to all of the other chapters. This should have accomplished the same thing you did with MIF, only a lot faster and would not have messed up your cross-references. MIF is great for fixing a lot of strange Frame failures, most of which are unknown. The reason this works has never been explained to me, but I use it when nothing else I do fixes the problem. I have used MIF to fix font problems, but never on a global scale. Usually just the Frame file that was displaying the problem. -----Original Message----- From: framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs....@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+david.spreadbury=tellabs.com at lists.frameusers.co m] On Behalf Of Steve Cavanaugh Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 11:01 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: "MIF"ed Newbie I started using FrameMaker 7.2 fairly recently. I was fortunate to beg a template off an experienced user, saving me many hours of setup for the document I'm writing. I've been reading the list for about six weeks, and numerous times I've seen instructions to save to MIF, do some editing, then read back into Frame. Good, I'm not afraid of that, and looking at a MIF file it seems a great way to get at things. I've been battling fonts here, and after a number of aborted efforts to convert my activities to Helvetica, I decided that Arial would be fine, and after all, it is available on every Windows machine. Anyone can maintain it with Arial. I reasoned that the easiest way to do this would be to save all of the files in my book to MIF and use Search/Replace to get things converted. That way I wouldn't have to go looking under all the rocks in Frame to find all of the Font definitions. So I created a MIF folder and saved the entire book (about 36 files) to MIF format. The Search/Replace went smoothly, and when I read the files back in I was pleased to see the Font change was in place. Good. One thing that I didn't really pay enough attention to though - when I opened the first file, Frame complained about Unresolved Cross-References. Well we see that a lot, don't we. I ignored it for the moment and began adding value to the book. But I kept seeing this on all of the files, so I decided to resolve them yesterday. What I discovered was very upsetting - all of the cross-references embedded on the master pages of each file were now pointing to the MIF folder, which I had sumarily dismissed after finishing with it. All thirty-six files, with about five to seven master pages each, three cross-references per page. OUCH! I just finished about 6 hours of re-establishing all of those cross-references. So, I'm not sure where I went wrong. I had named all of the MIF files as filename.fm.mif which allowed me to easily revert to saving as .fm when I was ready to re-save. If Frame has a habit of doing this kind of thing, I'm not sure I can use MIF again - is there a way to prevent Frame from changing the cross-references when saving as MIF and then re-saving as .fm? Anyone see where I went wrong? Steve Cavanaugh ============================================================ The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any reproduction, dissemination or distribution of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. Tellabs ============================================================