I just got this back from my printer. "Hey Scott!
Hope all are doing well - looks like you've got a winner! I ran your PDF through our RIP and there was no RGB conflicts at all - excellent!" Good news. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swhite at alamark.com On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:57 PM, Scott White wrote: > We get this exact same response with all but one printer we use, > "These are RGB you need to fix." > I don't understand why they give us the runaround as they have the > software and ability to take just about any rgb pdf and make the > necessary plates for printing. > I have to get on the phone with them time and time again about this. I > have to do this for all my clients who want to print as well. > > I'm hoping the FM9 can at least make these print houses happy by > giving true 4-color or 2-color output like the old FM 7.0 on the mac > did. > What I have seen is if I "save as" the PDF file comes out right as > long as my setup is correct on my end. > I now have a sample sent to my reliable printer, the one who never > questions my jobs but just does the transformation for me, of a PDF > created using FM9, setup for four-color, and acrobat distiller. We > shall see. > > > Scott White > Media Production Manager > Implementation Coordinator > 210-704-8239 > swhite at alamark.com > > > > On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Alan Litchfield wrote: > >> Howard, >> >> Let's just say first that there is a lot of confusion about how to >> deal with >> RGB channels in "print <nearly> ready" pdfs. But you say you are >> able to >> output separations (two plates, I take it from your description - >> one spot and >> one black) so the plate makers should be able to convert any RGB to >> black in >> both separations. >> >> Howard Rauch wrote: >>> >>> Over the past several years, we have done 5 or 6 major documents >>> and have had >>> a problem with RGB color in each one. A printing house sees us >>> coming and >>> tries to go into a hiding because the original was a FM document. >> >> Then choose a different supplier. They obviously don't want the work. >> >>> >>> We are currently finishing up another catalog (document) and have >>> sent sample >>> pages to the graphics house. The response is that the FM sample >>> pages have >>> "RGB channels" and are not suitable for offset printing. >> >> As above. But there is no such thing as an "RGB channel". RGB is >> three >> channels, one for Red, one for Green, and one for Blue. An >> application may >> handle the three of them together for the sake of expediency. >> >>> The graphics house >>> has now recommended that we use PhotoShop to set up a gray-scale >>> channel for >>> the spot color and import the gray-scale document into FM. >> >> If you are talking about an image that is in greyscale and if people >> are >> getting toey about it then save it as an eps or pdf and use that >> with the spot >> colour defined. When it is separated that spot colour will be >> retained as a >> separated plate. >> >>> My questions are these: >>> - Is there a workaround, plug-in, or something that will enable me >>> to get rid >>> of the "RGB channels" and still allow me to use the spot color in >>> Frame? >> >> As above. Prepress software is has been capable of converting RGB to >> spot or >> CMYK values for at least 10 years. This is not new technology. It is >> not >> something you need to do, it is handled by the prepress operator. >> >>> - Would FM9 or the new FM Graphics Suite solve the RGB/spot color >>> problem? >>> >> >> The word on the street is that it does, but only if you export to or >> save as >> pdf. Not if you print. Others will correct me if I am wrong. >> >> Alan >> >> -- >> Alan Litchfield MBus (Hons), MNZCS >> AlphaByte >> PO Box 1941, Auckland >> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> You are currently subscribed to Framers as swhite at alamark.com. >> >> Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. >> >> To unsubscribe send a blank email to >> framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >> or visit >> http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com >> >> Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >> http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as swhite at alamark.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/swhite%40alamark.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > >
