Hi Alison

We're dealing with something similar by using conditions with colored text for 
product variations and conditions wiith background shading for feature 
variations. You could give your short/advanced conditions background shading 
instead of colored text. 

Cheers
Rebecca 

>>> Alison Craig <Alison.Craig at ultrasonix.com> 20/04/13 04:39 >>>

Thanks guys. Unfortunately, my original Conditions are for a very different 
purpose than what you describe.

We have 5 different hardware platforms for our medical device, but a large 
portion of the book is common to all platforms. Currently, my Conditions cover 
the differences between the platforms ? and many times, the same info will 
pertain to only 1 or perhaps 2, 3 or 4 platforms, but not all five. By 
definition, those Conditions overlap.

I am now having to devise Short and Advanced versions of the book. Up to 95% of 
this will be covered by the inclusion/exclusion of Chapters and Appendices in a 
new book, but a small amount of content within the book files themselves will 
have to conditionalized as Short or Advanced. 

I was hoping to save a little time, but I guess that?s not possible.

As for overlapping Conditions ending up as magenta, I did have some of that 
problem, but I also had a problem with muddy blues and the khaki issue you 
mention. That?s why it took so long to determine the correct mix of colours in 
the first place ? especially as I used to cover 6 platforms in one book, not 
just the 5 I currently do.

Alison

From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of B??var Bj?rgvinsson
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 4:00 AM
To: Helen Borrie
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Selecting Colours for Conditions

Great, Helen.

Another way of doing it might have been to create colors under the names of the 
condition names: eOnly, Print1, etc. That way you would not have to remember 
any color names or to which condition each color applied.

Cheers,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson







On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 4:28 AM, Helen Borrie <helebor at iinet.net.au> wrote:
At 09:17 a.m. 19/04/2013, Alison Craig wrote:
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>Does anyone know if any kind of ?guide? exists regarding the best colours to 
>choose when creating Conditions?
>
>When I initially set up my Conditions, I spent a lot of time testing to see 
>how colours blended when I had multiple Conditions applied to the same text 
>(lots of combos ended up being virtually identical onscreen even though the 
>combination of underlying colours were quite different). It didn?t make sense 
>to use colours in the first place if I couldn?t tell where one combo stopped 
>and the next one started.
>
>I now have to add 2 new conditions (on a tight deadline) so I really don?t 
>have a lot of time to test things. If someone has put together some kind of 
>guide, I?d really love to see it ? if you?re willing to share.
Recently I broke up a very large eBook into three volumes for print.  It's the 
first time I've using conditionals seriously.  I followed the advice in Sarah 
O'Keefe's book and avoided having overlapping conditions.  I had to play around 
a bit until I got useful contrasts.

The book said that FM would show all overlapping conditions as magenta so it 
would be a good idea to avoid assigning magenta to a particular condition.  In 
fact, I never saw magenta at all;  all the overlaps that I had in my initial 
scheme (subsequently abandoned) came through as a sort of khaki when I did the 
conditionals for the first chapter.  That's when I decided Sarah was right and 
I should not try to piggyback the same conditions.

The scheme I ended up with was five conditions: eOnly, printOnly, Print1, 
Print2 and Print3.  (I have a navigation scheme built into the e-Version, which 
was not appropriate for the print books. The book will never have an omnibus 
print edition as it is waaaay too large.)

I picked the brightest possible high-contrast colours for the five conditions 
(avoiding magenta by Sarah's advice and blue because the Silicon Prairie 
indexing tools use blue for index markers.  I also avoided red because Fm8 
seems to use it as a warning when conditions conflict in some way.)  I think I 
had forest green for eOnly, green for Print1, cyan for Print2, salmon for 
Print3 and dark blue for printOnly.

On thing I did find was that it is very easy to change the entire colour 
scheme.  Once I had it pinned down, I just kept a card by me with the colours 
on it, so I didn't have to think about it when repeatedly swapping condition 
markers between {a colour} and {As Is}.

HTH, maybe a little bit, anyway...
Helen

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