all, AND . . . if you were a Frame-10 user on January 1, 2013 . . . you know EXPIRED SUBSCRIPTION embeded code . . . really does function.
ooops So . . . if one does cease to "auto"-pay . . . shall you become promptly de-ceased? ?Has anyone "on subscription" tried changing/advancing their system clock 2-3 months to see if anything odd occurs? please advise cha-CHANG$$$ Dick Doll (Frame user since V4.1 thru V10) graphic communications, llc sgmlindy at tds.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan T Litchfield" <a...@alphabyte.co.nz> To: <framers at lists.frameusers.com> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked > The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where > previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, > much is online and therefore vulnerable. > > It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own > question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes > the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at > renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to "have > a go". That is an increased threat. > > Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct > relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that wants > no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates a > payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an > expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. > Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its > customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with > increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness on > the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to question > their own values and belief in the system when they ought to be > questioning the system's values and making demands that services are > provided so that trust is warranted. > > Alan > > > On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > >> What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical >> except for if and when the license expires. >> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield <alan at alphabyte.co.nz >> > wrote: >> >>> umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing >>> model >>> and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of >>> harm >>> through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? > > -- > Dr Alan Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 > New Zealand > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > _______________________________________________ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmlindy at tds.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.