Yes, I'd pretty much come to that conclusion about starting on new pages for each file, Peter. Disappointing, but not unexpected.
It's going to play hob with xrefs, but getting this organized in my head is currently far more valuable. Once it's organized and I have the document written, I'll put it back into one file since I only anticipate minor updates. On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 2:05 PM, Peter Gold <peter@petergold.photography> wrote: > This is a great way to organize content, but individual documents require > new page starts in printed output. > > One FrameMaker technique that may help is creating container documents with > import-by-reference content. > > HTH. > > On Aug 3, 2018 11:49 AM, "Lin Sims" <ljsims...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Setting to next available didn't help; the contents of each file still > start on a new page, plus I had to create a Left master page. From the > description, it really sounded like I could use folders (or groups?) to > more finely chunk information and then have the contents follow one after > the other on a page without starting on top of the next page like DITA maps > with topics do. > > Oh, well. Would have been useful, but if there's a way to do it I don't > have time to figure it out. Guess what I'll do is complete the information > in the chunked files since that is helping me keep my thoughts straight and > the information better organized, and then either C&P back into a single > file for the chapter or text inset them one after the other. > > (Before someone goes there, DITA is not really an option even though I'd > like it to be. We're a small company with only 2 writers, and neither of us > knows anything like enough about DITA to set something up, nor anything at > all about how to set up Frame EDDs/DTDs to do it, plus we have no CMS, only > Box.) > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Wickham <i...@mikewickham.com> > wrote: > > > I use folders to separate groups of files. For example, a Front Matter > > folder holds all the various title page, TOC, preface, etc. files. There > is > > a folder for each part and one to hold appendixes. At the end of the > book, > > I also have a folder set to exclude (non-printing) that holds generated > > files that list graphics used in the book, and fonts used. I recall > > playing around with groups, but numbering works very differently on them, > > so abandoned that idea. > > > > I seem to recall a blog entry that was useful in figuring out folders and > > groups way back when, but couldn't find it now. Searching on > "hierarchical > > books" turns up some hits that might help you. Looking at the latest > > edition of FrameMaker help, it looks like it gives a clearer (though not > > complete) explanation of folders and groups than way back in version 9. > > > > Mike > > > > On 8/3/2018 9:36 AM, Lin Sims wrote: > > > >> Has anyone here used folders and groups in their unstructured books? Is > >> there any information out there on the how and when and why of using > them, > >> or when one is better used than the other? > >> > >> So far all I've found is the brief and pretty detail-less how to in > >> Adobe's > >> help files, and I want more in-depth information. > >> > >> I'm working on a book right now where I *think *using folders would be > >> useful (long chapter, trying to chunk so I can keep straight what > >> information is where and the like, because two of those sections are > >> nearly > >> identical except for a few words and I want to keep them identical but > >> there are edits and additions and you know the drill), but I'm not sure > if > >> it would be or how to set it up properly and, frankly, I'm not up to > >> trial-and-erroring today until I get it. > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/fr > > amers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/li > > stinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers. > com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims _______________________________________________ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
