Here is the process I have used in the past to remove title information from a 
FrameMaker document.
Procedure to remove File Info from book files - this information is propagated 
in new files when the template is used and cannot be deleted. Process for 
removing:
1.Begin by making a backup of all of the files.
2.Open a file (I will use Preface as an example). Click File > File Info. 
Remove any "File Info" text.
3.Open a new blank document.
4.Import formats from Preface into blank document -- ALL except for Document 
Properties.
5.Import file (Preface) into blank document - File > Import > File, select 
"Copy into document" at the bottom of the screen, click Import and in the 
dialog box that opens, select "Retain Source Formatting".
6.Close the original Preface file.
7.Save the "blank" document as Preface.
8.Select Format > Page Layout > Column Layout.  In the Column Layout dialog 
box, select the checkbox for Room for Sideheads and then click Update Entire 
Flow.
9.Close the file and reopen - the File Info should be gone.

I haven't used this in some time, but hope that it helps.

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   1. Re:  Structured XML 'title' element (cuc tu)
   2. Re:  ePub (Doug)
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   4.  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
   5. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Jeff Coatsworth)
   6. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (John Sgammato)
   7. Re:  File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:59 +0000
From: cuc tu <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured XML 'title' element
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Hi Rick,


I suspect a table is involved because of the error message, but all I notice in 
the XML and structure view is that the 'title' element tags are removed, and 
its text is then in the 'first_aid' element, which is not valid. In Frame, I 
can select this title text and then wrap it in the 'title' element, and that 
will validate. Frame will save the xml file with the 'title' element intact, 
but when the xml is then reopened, the title element is removed again.


Related to your question, actual 'table' elements are converted to 'Table' 
elements and then 'Row' elements are inserted. Those elements are undefined and 
appear elsewhere. The above just seemed to be an easier issue to get through as 
there are still several...


I'm fairly certain I have valid xml for the dtd, I just have problems with my 
structured application and am not sure where to look. I built the edd from a 
supplied dtd and imported the elements into a template file, but I do not map 
any formatting in the edd (it was simply built from the dtd). Then the rw rules 
are just from Adobe's structured app reference manual.


I think there is something making Frame expect the 'title' element in a table 
and there is a connection to Frame's Table Title, but I don't see where that is 
defined. I suspect something is missing from my rw-rules file, which looks as 
such:



fm version is "12.0";
/*
* Include all ISO entity mapping rules.
*/
#include "isoall.rw"


element "xref" {
is fm cross reference element "Xref";
attribute "formatprop" is fm property cross-reference format; }


element "table" {
is fm table element "Table";
attribute "frame"
{
is fm property table border ruling;
value "top" is fm property value top;
value "bottom" is fm property value bottom; value "topbot" is fm property value 
top and bottom; value "all" is fm property value all; value "sides" is fm 
property value sides; value "none" is fm property value none; } attribute 
"colsep" is fm property column ruling; attribute "rowsep" is fm property row 
ruling; attribute "numcols" is fm property columns; attribute "colwidths" is fm 
property column widths; }


element "tablehead" {
is fm table heading element "TableHead"; } element "tablebody" { is fm table 
body element "TableBody"; } element "row" { is fm table row element "Row"; } 
element "cell" { is fm table cell element "Cell"; }

element "graphic" {
is fm graphic element "Graphic";
writer anchored frame {
notation is "CGM";
export to file "$(docname).cgm";
}
}




Thanks,

C2

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Hi C2,

Is the <first_aid> element being converted to a FrameMaker table?

Rick

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:15:59 -0400
From: Doug <[email protected]>
To: Framers <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] ePub
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Thanks everyone. I clicked the Edit option on the Publish window and figured 
out how to add borders to my images...it works perfectly in ePub mode.  I'll 
have to remove the borders from my FM documents and just use those instead.  
Probably will end up using conditional text to use my original image borders to 
show up in our PDFs.

Can anyone suggest how to change the color of hotlinks?  My cross-refs display 
in the normal blue when they're published, but I'm told to make them a 
different shade.

Thanks,

On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:38 PM Scott Prentice <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Doug...
>
> I assume you're using the EPUB export in FM? The FM version will
> affect the output significantly, newer versions much better than
> older. As Rick points out, the formatting is controlled by CSS. There
> are many reasons that formatting in your source may now end up as
> expected in the EPUB. I haven't looked at the EPUB output from FM 2019
> yet, but I think it's the same as it was in FM 2017 (I hear that RH
> 2019 has a new engine though .. need to test that).
>
> One of the big problems with EPUB output from FM (and most tools), is
> that the underlying HTML/CSS is not terribly clean. There's likely a
> lot of hard-coded styling (@style attributes on HTML elements) .. when
> it should be purely @class attribute driven so it's easier to control.
> You'll also see differences in the rendering of pages depending on the
> EPUB reader you're using.
>
> You can look at the HTML/CSS markup by extracting the files from
> within the EPUB. Just change the file extension to ".zip" and use your
> favorite archive tool. In theory you can make edits and zip it back
> up, but this may create an invalid EPUB (the order of files in the
> archive is important, and most archive tools don't let you define that
> order). If you're serious about EPUB, you should get a copy of Oxygen XML 
> Editor.
> It lets you open EPUBs, make edits and save back to the EPUB (properly).
> And since it's an XML editor (and EPUBs are mostly XML), it's a really
> nice tool for making global edits to the files.
>
> EPUB can be really cool .. but the tools and readers are lacking in
> proper support. Keep it simple and you'll have better results. Also
> tell your end users which readers you "support" so they don't try
> using some reader that will make the EPUB looks really bad.
>
> Cheers,
> ...scott
>
>
> On 10/15/18 8:22 AM, Doug wrote:
> > I've been experimenting with publishing to the ePub format.  it
> > looks
> nice,
> > but the images in my document lose their borders during the process.
> I've
> > managed to make a single image retain its border, but none of the others.
> > Even if I set up another image the same way, the border vanishes
> > when I publish to ePub.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Doug
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 07:51:54 -0400
From: Doug <[email protected]>
To: Framers <[email protected]>
Subject: [Framers] Equations
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When I use the Insert > Equations functionality, the result is great for PDFs 
and print.  But when I File > Publish > HTML5, the equations are treated as 
images.  This is bad because the Publishing process puts borders around them 
like it does around all of the images.

The only way I can think of to fix this is to not set the Publish process to 
not automatically add borders to any images.  This means I will have to 
manually edit the CSS to add the 4 border statements for each of the images.  
But at least this way the equations won't have borders, even though they'll 
still be treated as images.

Am I missing a better solution?

Thanks!


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:44:35 -0400
From: Lin Sims <[email protected]>
To: Frame Users <[email protected]>
Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017

Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File Info? I have 
templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document title from this 
field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I create a new 
document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information in it and I 
can't get rid of it.

I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information in the MIF 
files.

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:49:39 +0000
From: Jeff Coatsworth <[email protected]>
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
        <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck with it 
forever.

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To: Frame Users <[email protected]>
Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem

Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017

Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File Info? I have 
templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document title from this 
field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I create a new 
document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information in it and I 
can't get rid of it.

I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information in the MIF 
files.

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:52:58 -0400
From: John Sgammato <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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We update that information all the time. It gets consumed by an 
auto-publication script and used to publish the final PDF to the right location.
We're using FM 2015, unstructured.


On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth < 
[email protected]> wrote:

> IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck
> with it forever.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=
> [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM
> To: Frame Users <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
>
> Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
>
> Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File
> Info? I have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old
> document title from this field in the template files. Yes, I update
> this field when I create a new document, but it's a bloody nuisance
> that it has bad information in it and I can't get rid of it.
>
> I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information
> in the MIF files.
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:55:27 -0400
From: Lin Sims <[email protected]>
To: Frame Users <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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Well. That's STUPID.

Also frustrating. Whose bright idea was that?

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth < 
[email protected]> wrote:

> IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck
> with it forever.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=
> [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM
> To: Frame Users <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
>
> Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
>
> Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File
> Info? I have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old
> document title from this field in the template files. Yes, I update
> this field when I create a new document, but it's a bloody nuisance
> that it has bad information in it and I can't get rid of it.
>
> I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information
> in the MIF files.
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:57:24 -0400
From: Lin Sims <[email protected]>
To: Frame Users <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
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That'd be nice. But we do it all manually: choose the file name, choose the 
location, all the rest. I just don't understand why someone thought carrying an 
old title over to everything ever created once you used that field for the 
first time was a good idea.

It's been a bit of a week. Already. Oy.

Thanks for the information, all, even if it's not what I hoped for.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:53 PM John Sgammato <[email protected]>
wrote:

> We update that information all the time. It gets consumed by an
> auto-publication script and used to publish the final PDF to the right
> location.
> We're using FM 2015, unstructured.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck
> > with it forever.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth=
> > [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Sims
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM
> > To: Frame Users <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem
> >
> > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017
> >
> > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File Info?
> I
> > have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document
> > title
> from
> > this field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I
> > create
> a
> > new document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information
> > in
> it
> > and I can't get rid of it.
> >
> > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information
> > in the MIF files.
> >
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