Rick found the information in the MIF file. I was (naturally) looking for the wrong text.
The info wanted is here (and yes I substituted generic information): <PDFDocInfo <Key 'Author'> <Value 'Company Name'> <Key 'Title'> <Value 'Book Title'> > # end of PDFDocInfo All I have to do is find that section in the MIF files and fix it, and none of our new documents will have a title in them. The older ones, obviously, were updated grumpily by me before generating the PDFs. :D On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:29 PM Carole McCormick < [email protected]> wrote: > Here is the process I have used in the past to remove title information > from a FrameMaker document. > Procedure to remove File Info from book files - this information is > propagated in new files when the template is used and cannot be deleted. > Process for removing: > 1.Begin by making a backup of all of the files. > 2.Open a file (I will use Preface as an example). Click File > File Info. > Remove any "File Info" text. > 3.Open a new blank document. > 4.Import formats from Preface into blank document -- ALL except for > Document Properties. > 5.Import file (Preface) into blank document - File > Import > File, select > "Copy into document" at the bottom of the screen, click Import and in the > dialog box that opens, select "Retain Source Formatting". > 6.Close the original Preface file. > 7.Save the "blank" document as Preface. > 8.Select Format > Page Layout > Column Layout. In the Column Layout > dialog box, select the checkbox for Room for Sideheads and then click > Update Entire Flow. > 9.Close the file and reopen - the File Info should be gone. > > I haven't used this in some time, but hope that it helps. > > ______________________________ > Carole McCormick > Technical Writer > > Sun Nuclear Corporation > 3275 Suntree Blvd. > Melbourne, FL 32940 > Tel: +1 321-259-6862 x2282 > Fax: +1 321-259-7979 > www.sunnuclear.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Framers <framers-bounces+carolemccormick= > [email protected]> On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:03 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 151, Issue 10 > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not > click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know > the content is safe. Questions? 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Re: File Info > Title information problem (Lin Sims) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 21:02:59 +0000 > From: cuc tu <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Structured XML 'title' element > Message-ID: > < > mwhpr1801mb18882df29bd6097754ab8e7efd...@mwhpr1801mb1888.namprd18.prod.outlook.com > > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi Rick, > > > I suspect a table is involved because of the error message, but all I > notice in the XML and structure view is that the 'title' element tags are > removed, and its text is then in the 'first_aid' element, which is not > valid. In Frame, I can select this title text and then wrap it in the > 'title' element, and that will validate. Frame will save the xml file with > the 'title' element intact, but when the xml is then reopened, the title > element is removed again. > > > Related to your question, actual 'table' elements are converted to 'Table' > elements and then 'Row' elements are inserted. Those elements are undefined > and appear elsewhere. The above just seemed to be an easier issue to get > through as there are still several... > > > I'm fairly certain I have valid xml for the dtd, I just have problems with > my structured application and am not sure where to look. I built the edd > from a supplied dtd and imported the elements into a template file, but I > do not map any formatting in the edd (it was simply built from the dtd). > Then the rw rules are just from Adobe's structured app reference manual. > > > I think there is something making Frame expect the 'title' element in a > table and there is a connection to Frame's Table Title, but I don't see > where that is defined. I suspect something is missing from my rw-rules > file, which looks as such: > > > > fm version is "12.0"; > /* > * Include all ISO entity mapping rules. > */ > #include "isoall.rw" > > > element "xref" { > is fm cross reference element "Xref"; > attribute "formatprop" is fm property cross-reference format; } > > > element "table" { > is fm table element "Table"; > attribute "frame" > { > is fm property table border ruling; > value "top" is fm property value top; > value "bottom" is fm property value bottom; value "topbot" is fm property > value top and bottom; value "all" is fm property value all; value "sides" > is fm property value sides; value "none" is fm property value none; } > attribute "colsep" is fm property column ruling; attribute "rowsep" is fm > property row ruling; attribute "numcols" is fm property columns; attribute > "colwidths" is fm property column widths; } > > > element "tablehead" { > is fm table heading element "TableHead"; } element "tablebody" { is fm > table body element "TableBody"; } element "row" { is fm table row element > "Row"; } element "cell" { is fm table cell element "Cell"; } > > element "graphic" { > is fm graphic element "Graphic"; > writer anchored frame { > notation is "CGM"; > export to file "$(docname).cgm"; > } > } > > > > > Thanks, > > C2 > > --------------------- > > > > Hi C2, > > Is the <first_aid> element being converted to a FrameMaker table? > > Rick > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing Inc. > [email protected] > 585-729-6746 NEW! > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2018 18:15:59 -0400 > From: Doug <[email protected]> > To: Framers <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] ePub > Message-ID: > <CANLqyK1-VyUDEDUWDKX9Y_2-tdHpgLO1W=rAfVOOXg6Dkr= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Thanks everyone. I clicked the Edit option on the Publish window and > figured out how to add borders to my images...it works perfectly in ePub > mode. I'll have to remove the borders from my FM documents and just use > those instead. Probably will end up using conditional text to use my > original image borders to show up in our PDFs. > > Can anyone suggest how to change the color of hotlinks? My cross-refs > display in the normal blue when they're published, but I'm told to make > them a different shade. > > Thanks, > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 2:38 PM Scott Prentice <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi Doug... > > > > I assume you're using the EPUB export in FM? The FM version will > > affect the output significantly, newer versions much better than > > older. As Rick points out, the formatting is controlled by CSS. There > > are many reasons that formatting in your source may now end up as > > expected in the EPUB. I haven't looked at the EPUB output from FM 2019 > > yet, but I think it's the same as it was in FM 2017 (I hear that RH > > 2019 has a new engine though .. need to test that). > > > > One of the big problems with EPUB output from FM (and most tools), is > > that the underlying HTML/CSS is not terribly clean. There's likely a > > lot of hard-coded styling (@style attributes on HTML elements) .. when > > it should be purely @class attribute driven so it's easier to control. > > You'll also see differences in the rendering of pages depending on the > > EPUB reader you're using. > > > > You can look at the HTML/CSS markup by extracting the files from > > within the EPUB. Just change the file extension to ".zip" and use your > > favorite archive tool. In theory you can make edits and zip it back > > up, but this may create an invalid EPUB (the order of files in the > > archive is important, and most archive tools don't let you define that > > order). If you're serious about EPUB, you should get a copy of Oxygen > XML Editor. > > It lets you open EPUBs, make edits and save back to the EPUB (properly). > > And since it's an XML editor (and EPUBs are mostly XML), it's a really > > nice tool for making global edits to the files. > > > > EPUB can be really cool .. but the tools and readers are lacking in > > proper support. Keep it simple and you'll have better results. Also > > tell your end users which readers you "support" so they don't try > > using some reader that will make the EPUB looks really bad. > > > > Cheers, > > ...scott > > > > > > On 10/15/18 8:22 AM, Doug wrote: > > > I've been experimenting with publishing to the ePub format. it > > > looks > > nice, > > > but the images in my document lose their borders during the process. > > I've > > > managed to make a single image retain its border, but none of the > others. > > > Even if I set up another image the same way, the border vanishes > > > when I publish to ePub. > > > > > > Ideas? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Doug > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 07:51:54 -0400 > From: Doug <[email protected]> > To: Framers <[email protected]> > Subject: [Framers] Equations > Message-ID: > <CANLqyK3H+PLa7YTxLZX0=TEOHB3Dy6q_= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > When I use the Insert > Equations functionality, the result is great for > PDFs and print. But when I File > Publish > HTML5, the equations are > treated as images. This is bad because the Publishing process puts borders > around them like it does around all of the images. > > The only way I can think of to fix this is to not set the Publish process > to not automatically add borders to any images. This means I will have to > manually edit the CSS to add the 4 border statements for each of the > images. But at least this way the equations won't have borders, even > though they'll still be treated as images. > > Am I missing a better solution? > > Thanks! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:44:35 -0400 > From: Lin Sims <[email protected]> > To: Frame Users <[email protected]> > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > Message-ID: > <CA+MomCjZXdo43JdTrsgCqpzw7AmFE8SNJNND__W2=Px= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017 > > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File Info? I > have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document title from > this field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I create a > new document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information in it > and I can't get rid of it. > > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information in > the MIF files. > > -- > Lin Sims > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 19:49:39 +0000 > From: Jeff Coatsworth <[email protected]> > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck with > it forever. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth= > [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Sims > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM > To: Frame Users <[email protected]> > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017 > > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File Info? I > have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document title from > this field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I create a > new document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information in it > and I can't get rid of it. > > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information in > the MIF files. > > -- > Lin Sims > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's homepage > at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:52:58 -0400 > From: John Sgammato <[email protected]> > To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > Message-ID: > <CAKwJh12M2LKP= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > We update that information all the time. It gets consumed by an > auto-publication script and used to publish the final PDF to the right > location. > We're using FM 2015, unstructured. > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck > > with it forever. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth= > > [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Sims > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM > > To: Frame Users <[email protected]> > > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > > > > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017 > > > > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File > > Info? I have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old > > document title from this field in the template files. Yes, I update > > this field when I create a new document, but it's a bloody nuisance > > that it has bad information in it and I can't get rid of it. > > > > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information > > in the MIF files. > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > > > -- > > [image: logo] > *John Sgammato* *Documentation Architect* m 508.927.2083 | > [email protected] | actifio.com < > http://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/399246/> <http://twitter.com/actifio> > <http://www.youtube.com/c/Actifio_Official> > < > http://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Actifio-EI_IE625803.11,18.htm > > > *Access your enterprise data as a service, instantly anywhere.* > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:55:27 -0400 > From: Lin Sims <[email protected]> > To: Frame Users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > Message-ID: > <CA+MomCipfch5NeeigHKvRZf0Y+_sexDO3zNmj4mnr= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Well. That's STUPID. > > Also frustrating. Whose bright idea was that? > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck > > with it forever. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth= > > [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Sims > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM > > To: Frame Users <[email protected]> > > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > > > > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017 > > > > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File > > Info? I have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old > > document title from this field in the template files. Yes, I update > > this field when I create a new document, but it's a bloody nuisance > > that it has bad information in it and I can't get rid of it. > > > > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information > > in the MIF files. > > > > -- > > Lin Sims > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2018 15:57:24 -0400 > From: Lin Sims <[email protected]> > To: Frame Users <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > Message-ID: > < > ca+momchhsbvjf_dyux-eyjfswcfdosqcrw0nhwtmjs7wi56...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > That'd be nice. But we do it all manually: choose the file name, choose > the location, all the rest. I just don't understand why someone thought > carrying an old title over to everything ever created once you used that > field for the first time was a good idea. > > It's been a bit of a week. Already. Oy. > > Thanks for the information, all, even if it's not what I hoped for. > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:53 PM John Sgammato <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > We update that information all the time. It gets consumed by an > > auto-publication script and used to publish the final PDF to the right > > location. > > We're using FM 2015, unstructured. > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 3:49 PM Jeff Coatsworth < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > IIRC once you stick something in that File Info screen, you're stuck > > > with it forever. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Framers <framers-bounces+jeff.coatsworth= > > > [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lin Sims > > > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 3:45 PM > > > To: Frame Users <[email protected]> > > > Subject: [Framers] File Info > Title information problem > > > > > > Currently: Windows 7, FrameMaker 2017 > > > > > > Why can't I delete the information in the Title field for the File > Info? > > I > > > have templates I created and I can't get rid of an old document > > > title > > from > > > this field in the template files. Yes, I update this field when I > > > create > > a > > > new document, but it's a bloody nuisance that it has bad information > > > in > > it > > > and I can't get rid of it. > > > > > > I even exported everything to MIF, but I can't find that information > > > in the MIF files. > > > > > > -- > > > Lin Sims > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > > > Send messages to [email protected] Visit the list's > > > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > [image: logo] > > *John Sgammato* *Documentation Architect* > > m 508.927.2083 | [email protected] | actifio.com > > <http://www.linkedin.com/company-beta/399246/> < > http://twitter.com/actifio > > > > > <http://www.youtube.com/c/Actifio_Official> > > < > > > http://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/Working-at-Actifio-EI_IE625803.11,18.htm > > > > > *Access your enterprise data as a service, instantly anywhere.* > > _______________________________________________ > > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > > > Send messages to [email protected] > > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > > Archives located at > > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > > > > -- > Lin Sims > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > > This daily digest is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to [email protected] > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to [email protected] > > ------------------------------ > > End of Framers Digest, Vol 151, Issue 10 > **************************************** > __________________________________________________________________ > Carole McCormick > Technical Writer > > Sun Nuclear Corporation > 3275 Suntree Blvd. > Melbourne, FL 32940 > Tel: +1 321-259-6862 x2282 > Fax: +1 321-259-7979 > www.sunnuclear.com<http://www.sunnuclear.com/> > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this email (including > any attachments) is legally privileged and confidential information > intended for the sole use of the individual(s) or entity named in the > message header. 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