Dear Julie, Thank you very much, this looks exactly like what I need!
Come to think of it, when I was using FrameMaker on Unix, I would have written a script using fmbatch to generate MIF, process the text using some of the standard Unix utilities, and convert back to .fm format. On Windows it's not as straightforward so your scripts will be very welcome. Thanks a lot, -- Bertrand Meyer -----Original Message----- From: Myers, Julie L [mailto:my...@iodp.tamu.edu] Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 22:33 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: bertrand.me...@inf.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs I have a couple of ExtendScripts that might help. One adds a newlink to specific paragraph formats and the other adds the gotolink. You would need to customize them and possibly modify them in other ways, but it might be a start. Let me know if you would like for me to send them to you. (I don't know if we are allowed to send attachments here.) Julie -----Original Message----- From: Framers <framers-bounces+myers=iodp.tamu....@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 3:02 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Framers Digest, Vol 175, Issue 8 Send Framers mailing list submissions to framers@lists.frameusers.com To subscribe or unsubscribe, visit https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers -frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!UjthGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2g5seqMVlSLBfO4dITNy RREzSCnJtG8nSbAeL0w$ You can reach the person managing the list at framers-ow...@lists.frameusers.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Framers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs (Lin Sims) 2. Re: Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs (Steve Rickaby) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:45:52 -0400 From: Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com> To: bertrand.me...@inf.ethz.ch, "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Cc: me...@inf.ethz.ch Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs Message-ID: <ca+momcglermpkglaxjfnzq1xkxzanzejsmrpcqaj1y+i6vw...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I must be missing something here, or misunderstanding what you are trying to do. A cross-reference is a hyperlink. If you are using a specific paragraph tag for your target, why not just use a cross-reference? Or you could use Glossary markers. Matt Sullivan has a good section explaining how to set up Glossary Terms and Glossary Definitions (marker types you'd have to create) in his FrameMaker Working with Content book ( https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://techcommtools.com/books/__;!!KwNVnqRv!Uj thGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2g5seqMVlSLBfO4dITNyRREzSCnJtG8lNxeP8Mw$ ). That one is for 2017, but he's putting out one for 2020 soon. On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 1:40 PM Bertrand Meyer <bertrand.me...@inf.ethz.ch> wrote: > This is a novice question. In fact I am not a novice as I have been > using FrameMaker extensively for many years, but I have not used > intra-document hyperlinks so far, jut cross-references (lots and lots of them). > > > > What I want to do now is simple to state: have text of the form > > > > Blah blah this is some text and that is a pointer to > some other part of the text > > > > where pointer (using a specific character format, in this case causing > underlining) is a hyperlink or equivalent so that in the generated PDF > clicking it will go to some designated target place in the text. > > > > I am used to cross-references, as in > > > > ... This was discussed in section 4.5, page 67, of the > previous chapter ... > > > > but they only make it possible to have a source that is a reference > format; as far as I know they do not make it possible to have as > source of the hyperlink an arbitrary word, such as "pointer" above. > > > > I also know how to create a hyperlink, putting a "gotolink XXX" > Hypertext marker under pointer (the source location) and another of > the form "newlink XXX" at the target location. > > > > But this is horrible because I need to invent a new label ("XXX") for > every single target, and insert "newlink XXX" at the corresponding > place. I have > -- literally -- thousands such locations; inserting them would consume > several days of my life, spent in a silly way since there is no > conceptual need for these markers. > > > > (The text, by the way, is the revision of the Eiffel standard of which > the previous version is at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.ecma-international.org/publica > tions/standards/Ecma-367.htm__;!!KwNVnqRv!UjthGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2 > g5seqMVlSLBfO4dITNyRREzSCnJtG8nEG51xTQ$ . If you look up the text you > will see that it has thousands of underlined elements, e.g. unfolded > form in the last bullet item on page 97. They correspond to concepts > defined formally elsewhere in the text. At the moment one has to look > them up in the index, or perform a search. They should be hyperlinks! > Hence the question.) > > > > The reason it is pointless to have to insert "newlink XXX" all over > the place is that since the hyperlinks always go to tart paragraphs of > specific types ("formats"). (I fanatically use FrameMaker > paragraph-typing > mechanisms.) I just want to link to a specific paragraph of a specific > type, choosing it from the automatically list, as I do with > cross-references. > > > > Is there a way to do this? > > > > I am using FrameMaker 2015, although I will soon update to the latest > version. > > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions and best regards, > > > > -- Bertrand Meyer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!Ujt > hGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2g5seqMVlSLBfO4dITNyRREzSCnJtG8lYjPLlFw$ > Archives located at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://www.mail-archive.com/framers*40list > s.frameusers.com/__;JQ!!KwNVnqRv!UjthGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2g5seqMVlS > LBfO4dITNyRREzSCnJtG8kSKoVbvw$ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/f > ramers-frameusers.com__;!!KwNVnqRv!UjthGn2Gjlzi2JoNodQTJ_4BVpr2g5seqMV > lSLBfO4dITNyRREzSCnJtG8nSbAeL0w$ Send administrative questions to > listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 13:49:31 +0100 From: Steve Rickaby <srick...@wordmongers.com> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs Message-ID: <p06240804dbb881517297@[10.211.55.5]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >I must be missing something here, or misunderstanding what you are trying >to do. A cross-reference is a hyperlink. If you are using a specific >paragraph tag for your target, why not just use a cross-reference? I'm glad you posted this, Lin. I was about to do the same, but then my Inner Voice said "Nah - you've been out of the loop too long: you're missing something. 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