As Winfried said, there's no way to do this in FrameMaker, although someone
like Rick might be able to script it for you.

The closest you can get without a script is, I think, to use the Glossary
Term / Glossary Definition markers described by Matt Sullivan (
https://techcommtools.com/by-request-framemaker-glossary-and-glossaryterm-markers/),
but it's still going to be a manual process.

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 8:18 AM Bertrand Meyer <[email protected]>
wrote:

> No. Let me explain. This is the text of a language standard (the previous
> version is an ISO standard, International Standards Organization). It is
> written very rigorously. (It is the result of many years of laborious
> effort by many people.) See
> https://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-367.htm.
> Some words have their ordinary meanings and others have meanings introduced
> with a rigorous definition in the standard itself. In the previous version,
> such words are underlined. For example, a sentence such as
>
>         This particular beast might be a *cat* or it might be a *dog* or
> it might be an *unclassified* beast.
>
> (I have the impression that the remailer removes underlining so I am using
> asterisks, as in *underlined_word*, instead.) The example sentence uses
> underlining to expressthat the underlined notions, "cat", "dog" and
> "unclassified", have a formal definition somewhere in the text.
>
> Quite understandably, people have started to ask that all such underlined
> elements should be links to the corresponding definitions. (Otherwise, the
> reader has to run searches all the time.)
>
> This kind of thing is needed for any normative text of that kind, which
> includes precise definitions.
>
> In FrameMaker terms, all the definitions are in paragraphs of one specific
> type (format in FrameMaker terminology), so the obvious thing to do from
> the writer's perspective would be to be able to select the target from a
> list of paragraphs of that type, as with cross-references. But
> cross-references don't work since they impose a format based on the target,
> not the source.
>
> -- BM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shmuel Wolfson [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 12:55
> To: [email protected]; An email list for people using Adobe
> FrameMaker software. <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs
>
> Can't you just write "this is explained in the discussion of cat problems
> (page xx)"?
>
> On 27-Oct-20 12:27 PM, Bertrand Meyer wrote:
> > Actually my problem is not exactly this. I am happy with link targets
> > being paragraphs. (They already are.) My problem is the link sources:
> > I don't want them to be in a "cross-reference format" in the
> > FrameMaker sense, whose displayed text is deduced from the target
> > (e.g. "section 4.5"); they have to be arbitrary text.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > -- BM
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 11:03
> > To: [email protected]; An email list for people using Adobe
> > FrameMaker software. <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Basic question: hyperlinks to paragraphs
> >
> >> Thanks for the comments. A cross-references forces me to use a
> >> cross-reference format for the link, e.g. "section 4.5". I cannot use
> >> a reference format, I want to use an arbitrary text for the linking
> >> text, as in "this is explained in the discussion of cat problems",
> >> where the underlined text (I hope the mailing list mailer keeps the
> >> underline) is my own text but a link to some chosen place.
> >>
> >> Hyperlinks to this but force me in each case to add two commands, a
> >> gotolink at the source and a newlink at the target, which is
> >> horrendously tedious if one has thousands such cases. The newlink is
> >> not conceptually necessary since all the targets are paragraphs so I
> >> should be able simply to choose from a paragraph list as with
> > cross-references.
> >
> >  From memory I used to use the double-link method for this, but I
> > never needed to do it very often. I appreciate your problem. AFAIK you
> > are stymied by FrameMaker's internal model, which only allows xrefs to
> > named styles, i.e. at the paragraph level, rather than to specific
> > runs of text such as a sentence. If there's a way to do this that
> > doesn't involve a double-link process, I'd be interested to hear of
> > it, even though I seldom use FrameMaker these days.
> >
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