Yes, it is very nice seeing all your names again. :-) Louise Kaufman 1502 Meadowbrook Drive Mason City, IA 50401 [email protected]
----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Prentice <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, 29 May 2026 12:48:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [Framers] Mif2Go domain Nice to see that people are still here! I do miss the old days of FrameMaker .. was such a vibrant group of people (and wonderful product). The subscription path that Adobe took for Frame was the death knell for my use. It's one thing to offer this as one option when it makes sense for your needs, but another to force it on everyone, and effectively hold your content hostage. No thanks, Adobe! When I need FM for crafting a highly formatted document, I fire up FM8 in my Win7 VM .. works great as always! But for most of my documentation work, I've moved to DITA in Oxygen. I'm still working to make DITA easier to use for the average person, since it allows you to actually own your content, and easily produce output in many formats As for the Mif2Go domain, Dennis Hays has taken ownership of it .. so if you ever want to travel down memory lane and check out the cool tools that Jeremy Griffith created and review the very old freeframers archives, you can just go to www.mif2go.com! For the foreseeable future that still ends up on my website at omsys.leximation.net, but someday Dennis may do something more creative with it. Thanks, to Dennis for taking this off my hands after 12 years! :-) All the best to everyone! Scott On 5/29/26 9:00 AM, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > If Adobe's upgrade pricing policies for new versions were rational, I would > continue using FrameMaker too ... > > However, if you fall two revisions behind, you have to essentially buy a full > license again - pre subscription licensing. That was a deal-breaker for me. > > So, I switched to a LaTeX flow - tools for almost instant PDF preview are > available and work beautifully ... which admittedly was sufficient for my > needs (YMMV). > > I am also working on the fourth edition of my book, so my work provides me > with a license for the Creative Suite to use InDesign ... but this does not > include FrameMaker, of course! > > For my own writing (basic stuff, working on book, articles, etc., without > figures or diagrams), I am quite pleased with how well Scrivener meets that > need! > > Z > > > Syed Zaeem Hosain | Founder, Chief Evangelist > > Aeris Communications, Inc.<http://www.aeris.com/> > > [email protected] > > a: 1731 Technology Drive, Suite 800, San Jose, CA 95110-1360, USA. > > o: +1 408 557-1905 | f: +1 408 557-1925 | twitter: @AerisCTO > > ________________________________ > From: Framers<[email protected]> on > behalf of Bertrand Meyer<[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2026 07:46 PM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker > software.'<[email protected]> > Cc:[email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Mif2Go domain > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click > links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the > content is safe. > > > I must say this thread is depressing. If I understand right, almost no one > except me is using FrameMaker. I have produced some 15 books with it, and am > working on more. There is simply no way I could do what I need in Word or > Overleaf/LaTeX. More precisely I guess I could, but with those tools I think > about the tools 80% of the time, about my text the rest. With FrameMaker the > proportion is reversed. Actually it is more like 10%/90% even with the bugs > and quirks. > > Interesting how Adobe managed to kill a superior product. > > Worse yet, with the unavailability of purchased versions, not only do we have > to pay forever, but they can turn the switch off any time and (in my case at > least) leave us with a lifetime of unexploitable -- i.e. lost -- work. > > -- Bertrand Meyer > > -----Original Message----- > From: > Framers<[email protected]> On > Behalf Of Craig Ede > Sent: 28 May, 2026 22:25 > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker > software.<[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Mif2Go domain > > Yes, some of us are still out here (listening). Good to see these familiar > names! > > Craig Ede > ________________________________ > From: Framers<[email protected]> on > behalf of Scott Prentice<[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2026 11:49 AM > To: 'Framers'<[email protected]> > Subject: [Framers] Mif2Go domain > > Is anyone still out there? :-) > > I've been maintaining the mif2go.com domain since Jeremy Griffith's passing > in 2014, but it's time to let it go. If anyone is interested in taking > ownership of this domain, please let me know, ASAP .. it expires in 15 days. > > I will continue to maintain his Omsys website which includes the > documentation and free downloads for his tools: > > - Mif2Go > - DITA2Go > - uDoc2Go > - OmniHelp > > These and the archive of freeframers.org are all available at .. > > https://omsys.leximation.net > > The source for these tools will also continue to be available on GitHub, if > anyone wants to work with them. > > I hope you're all well! > > Scott > > > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages [email protected] > > Archives located athttp://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe > athttp://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages [email protected] > > Archives located athttp://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe > athttp://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages [email protected] > > Archives located athttp://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe > athttp://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions [email protected] > > > > This communication contains Aeris Confidential Information. 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