or maybe allowing an option that turns on advanced panels(or at least a way for addon developer create some sort of navigation to advanced options they may add).

re: zmi. lets talk about being painfully modal. The fact we are having this conversation seems to indicate a different and wider issue to me.

the argument that we are now using the zmi by design really rings hollow for me. Though I strongly support generalizes ui that works with or without plone, I'm not sure designing in any more context switches into plone is at all a good idea. Let's keep people in the application or on filesystem, not rummaging though our hot nineties legacy layer.

Context switching has almost always been an unfortunate bump on our learning curve for Plone. Just having to explain navigating the zmi increase our support burden. People should design good configuration uis, not just stick badly drawn ones in the zmi.

There are options that make more sense in a plone setting even if not for the more general day to day site admin tweaks. addon authors will add their own control panel regardless of what we say the right way is, so I would vote for giving them a more appropriate place to do this (with wicked, I see plenty of fertile options that I'm not at all interested in building zmi pages for but are definitely not basic configuration options).

we are also moving into a time where control panel style UIs make sense at any container level, not just the portal.

with these things in mind, we may need to rethink the application of the pattern we use in plone.app.controlpanels so it can be easily reused for things like advanced options or container level configuration. This seems like the right direction, rather than claiming the inevitable use of better technology as wrong by decree and advocating a return to the bonny days of 1999.

long live frames!

-w


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