Dear Anna,

Thanks for the offer, but we really want to buy this super8 JK gear. If we want 
to borrow we do have acces to one a bit closer by, in France..
The tube is an extension to fix behind the lens, to reach the focus on S8.

I don’t know of film artist here who cut their own negatives, except at LABO 
BxL we sometimes do, also with tape, mostly only to leader for printing short 
looper films. Mariette has only one command every two or three months. She 
can’t make a living out of it ;-)
We also have Dejonghe film-laboraties in Belgium, who does negative cutting, 
next to the general 35 and 16mm film processing. 
Many filmmakers who film on film here, finish the process digitally nowadays. 
They don’t cut their negatives at all.

cheers
Els van Riel
Brussels






On 23 Apr 2023, at 18:40, Anna Kipervaser <[email protected]> wrote:

Els, I understand you're looking to own a s8 gate for the JK, but would it be 
helpful to borrow one for a while or is that not of interest? I ask because I 
might be able to help facilitate a lending (from the US). And I'm sorry I don't 
know what the lens extension situation is or what it's used for. Would love to 
learn! I've got a K103 and have bellows on the JK. I feel like I've seen JKs 
with both the extension in your pic and bellows, and have assumptions on why, 
but would love to learn specifics. Please tell.

Also, is Mariette Michaud cutting negatives for most folks in Belgium, or are 
most doing their own neg cutting? I'm so interested in this question especially 
when there's a magician like Mariette Michaud around. 


Jeff, I'm sorry.... but again, not asking for any advice or explanations re neg 
cutting, tape splicing vs cement, etc... Perhaps it's unintentional, but your 
messages read like you're talking down to people, to me and others [Scott's 
initial message read that way too]. Not cool. You already said you haven't done 
this in ages and that you've gone digital so maybe you don't know what's 
actually happening these days regarding this topic.

And I dunno why you're putting real in quotes. As if LABO BxL or Mono No Aware 
or nanolab aren't real [to name a few from diff continents]!? Are they figments 
of our imagination?! As a point of fact: both artist run and commercial labs 
are putting tape splices thru their ultrasonic cleaning machines and their 
contact printers - both wet and dry gate.


***NOTICE: no one is asking if tape splicing is possible or ok to use for neg 
cutting. No one. Not a single person in the whole wide world***


Thank you for reading my PSA, now we return to our regularly scheduled 
programming. Peace and fucking love y'all, peace and love. 

Disclaimer: I am not pissed. I know where I posted my initial inquiry. I just 
insist on clarity of communication and on speaking up if something ain't 
feeling right.






On Sun, Apr 23, 2023 at 4:31 AM Els van Riel <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

Here in Belgium we had Huguette Van Volsem who worked as a fulltime neg-cutter 
for our Belgian film-en TV industry. A few years ago Mariette Michaud bought 
part of her equipement and uses it from time to time. Her splices ar invisible.

By the way, reading about the JK optical printer, in artist run LABO BxL we are 
still on the look out for its super-8 gate and lens-extension for our JK107. 
See picture.
If anyone could give me a lead? We have a budget for it.

Thank you very much!

Els van Riel
Brussels/Belgium


On 23 Apr 2023, at 08:57, Jeff Kreines <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Tape splices are fine for a JK.  You can even cut the neg with handles and skip 
the splices when printing.

However, if you are going to a “real” lab, they won’t like tape splices because 
they can’t use an ultrasonic cleaner.  (They can, but the splices eventually 
come off.)

Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
kinetta.com <http://kinetta.com/>

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