Hello Anh,
Such great suggestions! Grateful for all y'all, now more than ever.

Also see:
Kim Knowles' excellent text, not so much how to exactly, as how to be . . .
:
Experimental Film and Photochemical Practices (Experimental Film and
Artists’ Moving Image) (2020, Palgrave McMillan)

and
Great website and book (2020, UC Press) for inspirations, from Gregory
Zinman:
https://handmadecinema.com/making-images-move/

Hope you'll show us results here once you get your hands on film!
- Devon Damonte
Oly, WA / The Evergreen State College

On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 1:35 PM Sarah Bliss <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Anh,
>
> Yay cameraless filmmaking!  I highly recommend Kathryn Ramey’s excellent
> guidebook, chock full of detailed descriptions about processes, recipes,
> experiments.
>
> Breaking the Machine
>
> [image: rameybook.jpeg]
>
> Experimental Filmmaking: Break the Machine
> <https://expcinema.org/site/en/books/experimental-filmmaking-break-machine>
> expcinema.org
> <https://expcinema.org/site/en/books/experimental-filmmaking-break-machine>
> <https://expcinema.org/site/en/books/experimental-filmmaking-break-machine>
>
> and the companinon website (www.focalpress.com/cw/ramey) featuring video
> examples from numerous films for inspiration and emulation
>
> all best,
>
> Sarah Bliss
>
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> *From: *Anh Chu <[email protected]>
> *Subject: **[Frameworks] Question about direct animation on 16mm*
> *Date: *April 16, 2025 at 6:13:52 AM EDT
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
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> Hi Frameworks community,
>
> I'm learning about painting on 16mm film. If you happen to know some
> online tutorials, could you please share them with me?
>
> Thank you!
> anh
>
>
>
> *From: *Devon D <[email protected]>
> *Subject: **Re: [Frameworks] Question about direct animation on 16mm*
> *Date: *April 16, 2025 at 9:27:01 AM EDT
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
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>
> Hurray for 16mm direct animation!
>
> Not exactly a tutorial, but perhaps an even better launchpad:
> Helen Hill's brilliant "Madame Winger Makes a Film"
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noxP4hNxMN0
>
> xo,
> -dD
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 3:16 AM Anh Chu <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Frameworks community,
>>
>> I'm learning about painting on 16mm film. If you happen to know some
>> online tutorials, could you please share them with me?
>>
>> Thank you!
>> anh
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> artist + teacher + enthusiast
> direct animation ~ rubbings ~ cyanotypes ~ & beyond
>
>
>
> *From: *Albert Alcoz <[email protected]>
> *Subject: **Re: [Frameworks] Question about direct animation on 16mm*
> *Date: *April 16, 2025 at 12:16:45 PM EDT
> *To: *Experimental Film Discussion List <[email protected]>
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>
> Hello anh,
>
> Here are three links that could be useful to know more about it:
>
> The Recipes for Disaster book compiled by the animation filmmaker Helen
> Hill:
> http://www.othercinema.com/otherzine/archives/otherzine4/hh.html
>
> The Zellouloid catalogue of the exhibition done in Frankfurt in 2012
>
> https://monoskop.org/images/d/dd/Schlicht_Esther_Hollein_Max_eds_Zelluloid_Camera_Less_Film_Film_ohne_Kamera.pdf
>
> And he website of Steve Woloshen who has written some books about the
> subject:
> https://scratchatopia.wordpress.com/
>
> All the best,
> Albert Alcoz
>
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 3:30 PM Devon D <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hurray for 16mm direct animation!
>>
>> Not exactly a tutorial, but perhaps an even better launchpad:
>> Helen Hill's brilliant "Madame Winger Makes a Film"
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noxP4hNxMN0
>>
>> xo,
>> -dD
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 3:16 AM Anh Chu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Frameworks community,
>>>
>>> I'm learning about painting on 16mm film. If you happen to know some
>>> online tutorials, could you please share them with me?
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>>> Thank you!
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