Hi Anh,

Yay cameraless filmmaking!  I highly recommend Kathryn Ramey’s excellent 
guidebook, chock full of detailed descriptions about processes, recipes, 
experiments.  

Breaking the Machine

https://expcinema.org/site/en/books/experimental-filmmaking-break-machine
Experimental Filmmaking: Break the Machine
expcinema.org

and the companinon website (www.focalpress.com/cw/ramey 
<http://www.focalpress.com/cw/ramey>) featuring video examples from numerous 
films for inspiration and emulation

all best, 

Sarah Bliss


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> From: Anh Chu <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Frameworks] Question about direct animation on 16mm
> Date: April 16, 2025 at 6:13:52 AM EDT
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> Hi Frameworks community,
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> I'm learning about painting on 16mm film. If you happen to know some online 
> tutorials, could you please share them with me?
> 
> Thank you!
> anh
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> From: Devon D <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Question about direct animation on 16mm
> Date: April 16, 2025 at 9:27:01 AM EDT
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> Hurray for 16mm direct animation!
> 
> Not exactly a tutorial, but perhaps an even better launchpad:
> Helen Hill's brilliant "Madame Winger Makes a Film"
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noxP4hNxMN0
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> xo,
> -dD
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> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 3:16 AM Anh Chu <[email protected] 
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>> Hi Frameworks community,
>> 
>> I'm learning about painting on 16mm film. If you happen to know some online 
>> tutorials, could you please share them with me?
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> anh
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> direct animation ~ rubbings ~ cyanotypes ~ & beyond
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> From: Albert Alcoz <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Question about direct animation on 16mm
> Date: April 16, 2025 at 12:16:45 PM EDT
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> Hello anh,
> 
> Here are three links that could be useful to know more about it:
> 
> The Recipes for Disaster book compiled by the animation filmmaker Helen Hill:
> http://www.othercinema.com/otherzine/archives/otherzine4/hh.html
> 
> The Zellouloid catalogue of the exhibition done in Frankfurt in 2012
> https://monoskop.org/images/d/dd/Schlicht_Esther_Hollein_Max_eds_Zelluloid_Camera_Less_Film_Film_ohne_Kamera.pdf
> 
> And he website of Steve Woloshen who has written some books about the subject:
> https://scratchatopia.wordpress.com/
> 
> All the best,
> Albert Alcoz
> 
> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 3:30 PM Devon D <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hurray for 16mm direct animation!
>> 
>> Not exactly a tutorial, but perhaps an even better launchpad:
>> Helen Hill's brilliant "Madame Winger Makes a Film"
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noxP4hNxMN0
>> 
>> xo,
>> -dD
>> 
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2025 at 3:16 AM Anh Chu <[email protected] 
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>>> Hi Frameworks community,
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>>> I'm learning about painting on 16mm film. If you happen to know some online 
>>> tutorials, could you please share them with me?
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