David, Your post come in just after I posted mine.
I'm sorry about your troubles. As I suggested earlier, everyone's situation is different, and everyone is different. Maybe you had a particularly bad situation. Maybe there were other reasons for your troubles. There are people who try to show film on film and can't, and there are some who succeed. But even when you can't, you can talk about how the film shown on film actually looks, and recommend screenings if there are any in your locale, in the same way that a good art history teacher (of whom there are all too few) showing slides would talk about what some of the art works actually look like. I have posted many times that maintaining projectors will be a key choke point in the future. Labs and prints stocks will be another problem. Yet, at present, many do manage to keep their projectors going. And there are still a lot of prints around. You seem to be appealing to some form of "majority rules" -- not enough care about film on film, so it will die out. Maybe you're right. Or maybe a few of us will manage to keep it alive, for some decades into the future. Who appointed you to write its obituary? That you profess to care "very little" for the artist's intentions as to how a work should be shown leaves me speechless. In my experience, many do care, once the issue is explained. But I guess if one doesn't care much then one doesn't even address the issue. The specifics have been aired here many times: the differences between film flicker and most forms of video, between projected film light and other kinds of projection/display, between the physical look of projected celluloid and the very different look of video. I don't prefer one to the other. It is simply my claim that many of the best avant-garde (and other) films come through far better in their intended format. This is not a small question of "look" either. One might even say it's a question of "ideology": that what the projected image presents itself as in relation to seeing and to the world is something different from what most kinds of video images present themselves as. Fred Camper Chicago _______________________________________________ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks