I correct myself: the student hits record when he means to stop recording, he 
hits stop when he thinks he's recording.  

There was no video.  It was an example Pip gave for some thread a couple years 
ago.

The obsession would appear when the mistake is adopted as that which is of 
primary interest to the artist.  In this case (and it's not like any of this is 
settled, in my mind, as I write), the error records only the set-up, the 
intention to record stops the capture.  A scene then evolves that is strictly 
live, for camera, for recording but without recording.  After several shoots 
the footage is reviewed, and . . tadaaa! . . it is found to be exceptional!

Bernie



On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:03 PM, re <roeen...@gmail.com> wrote:
 
Ahh interesting. That example clarifies a little for me. I see how it applies 
to your criteria: "given a certain context of achievement, would indeed appear 
to be a failure, but in which . . tadaaa! . . the artist has moved beyond"

but not how it constitutes "a strange space occupied by a particular obsession" 

but i also see how that's just an example, and an astute one on Pip's part!

can you relink the video?



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On Nov 26, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Bernard Roddy <rodd...@yahoo.com> wrote:


Thanks.  Pip once replied to a post with an example.  A student using a 
camcorder hits play when he intends to stop and stop when he intends to play.  
Imagine that going on for some time.  The result would be an example of what I 
have in mind - impossible to take much credit for!  And yet . . it could be 
done "on purpose," too.
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>given a certain context of achievement, would indeed appear to be a failure, 
>but in which . . tadaaa! . . the artist has moved beyond any such wanna-be 
>status into a strange space occupied by a particular obsession
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>Trying to follow your train of thought. Seems like the technique of film 
>scratching might fall into the category of according to Hollywood, one should 
>avoid scratching film, but because of particular obsessions, people do so. 
>Paul Sharits, for one. And I would say his work expresses an impatience of 
>sorts, and that the tactility of the scratches (even through visual 
>perception) amplifies this immediacy. 
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>Maybe its a start: http://www.bboptics.com/sound-strip-film-strip.html
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