Hello everyone, After some consideration about whether to pay for permission to use as narration an essay from the NY Times, I decided to dig deeper, do more research, and write my own narration. In doing more research, I discovered aspects of the situation I had not known about before. that were not covered in the inspirational essay, and I'm incorporating those into my film.
Best, CC On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Caryn Cline <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Francisco, Jim, Gene, David, Ted and Dan. > > Thank you all for your insights and advice. I really appreciate your > taking the time to respond to my query. Frameworks is such a great > resource! > > Best wishes, > > CC > > > On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 1:04 PM, Francisco Torres <[email protected]>wrote: > >> If you modify it ''substantially'' it becomes a different text. Think >> William Burroughs... >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Caryn Cline <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dear Frameworkers, >>> >>> >>> >>> I'm writing to ask your advice. I'm working on a short handmade, >>> experimental film that takes as its "script" a slightly modified version of >>> an essay I found in the *New York Times*, which I plan to use as a >>> voiceover narration on the soundtrack. I wrote to the author to ask his >>> permission to use it, which he gladly gave with this caveat: everything he >>> writes for the paper is owned by them. He gave me the name of someone to >>> contact at the paper, who sent me to the paper's licensing people. I >>> decided to follow that lead, to see where it went. [I have not had good >>> luck with trying to get permission for a reasonable fee before, but I >>> decided to try, as an experience.] >>> >>> >>> >>> Well, needless to say the people who license for the *Times* want me to >>> pay them what I regard as way too much money for the use of the essay--$800 >>> for rights for festivals, galleries, streaming, broadcast, etc.--for the >>> life of the title. As you know, it is difficult to communicate to people >>> in these positions that there is absolutely no commercial value in the >>> film. The money is about 1/3 of my overall budget. Some of my handmade >>> film buddies advised me to forget about the permission and just use it >>> anyway, but I feel funny about doing that now, and as one friend who works >>> in the business cautioned: my project and I are on their radar now. Should >>> I try to talk them down? (They originally asked for $1300, so this is a >>> considerable reduction from outrageously expensive to merely quite >>> expensive.) Should I claim "fair use," and use the text anyway? What are >>> the chances that they would come after me? I'd appreciate any advice or >>> hearing about your own experiences with this. Many thanks. >>> >>> >>> CC >>> >>> -- >>> Caryn Cline >>> co-producer, *Acts of Witness* >>> www.actsofwitness.com >>> vimeo.com/carynyc >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > > -- > Caryn Cline > co-producer, *Acts of Witness* > www.actsofwitness.com > vimeo.com/carynyc > > > -- Caryn Cline co-producer, *Acts of Witness* www.actsofwitness.com vimeo.com/carynyc
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