Jesse! In regards to "well-deployed spoilers," I might look into Maurice LeMaître's "Le film est déjà commencé?" from 1952. It was a Lettrist film and supposed staged provocation. There's some accounts/ info on it in Off-Screen Cinema by Kaira M Cabañas.
Might not be what you're looking for at all, but it's an interesting sort of (delayed) response to those legendary "reactions." Mia Ferm -- *Cinema Project* www.cinemaproject.org 971-266-0085 PO Box 5991 Portland, OR 97228 On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:50 PM, Fred Camper <[email protected]> wrote: > Yes, that's right. Because it was positive film, a succession of black and > white rectangles appeared inside each other as with each new pass the > previous result was filmed. I believe it was around 40 minutes long. It was > really interesting; I had never seen anything like it before, and have not > since. > > Fred Camper > > > On 1/13/2016 11:32 PM, Gene Youngblood wrote: > > I believe Tony Conrad did some kind of demonstration or performance of > “film feedback” in which exposed 16mm film went immediately into a > developing bath and was projected, and the projection was filmed and > projected, and so on. No doubt someone on this list remembers that and can > describe it properly. Also, for scholars of early video, in the current > issue of Afterimage Robyn Farrell has an in-depth history of Gerry Schum’s > “TV Gallery” and “Video Gallery” projects in Germany in the late sixties, > which I only alluded to in passing in Expanded Cinema. > > > On Jan 13, 2016, at 3:17 PM, robert harris <[email protected]> wrote: > > The “early cinema/early video” query is a good one, one that I’ve not seen > explored with much rigor. > > Kleinhans’ question of “broadcast TV or portapak” is significant. > > Early TV might have more in common with radio than with early film. > > Early video (portapak) provoked, for some practitioners, sensibilities in > keeping with those of the Lumieres. > > The Lumiere camera was more like video than any other camera (including > the Edison version) as it was, like video, a capture and playback device > (and lab). > > The promptness with which the Lumieres could playback their recordings (if > my film mythology serves me) is almost video-like (time was a little slower > in those days, so they say). > > Both early film and early video were made without post-production edits, > hence were finished in camera. > > Video’s instant feedback loop is an unequivocal distinction from film. > > To give proper attention to all origin strains of video, you have to > consider camera-less, raster based work (Nam June Paik, Wolf Vostell and > others). > > The “early cinema” equivalent might be the first people to mark on clear > leader, some Italian Futurists, Hans Richter, Man Ray etc. > > As to cultural “outrage”, it wasn’t uncommon for the people throwing > things at the artists and making big scenes to be the Surrealists > themselves. > > > > Some worthy writing of early video (essays you should be able to easily > find): > > Hollis Frampton, *The Withering Away of the State of the Art* > > David Antin, *Video: The Distinctive Features of the Medium* > > > > On Jan 13, 2016, at 2:46 AM, Chuck Kleinhans <[email protected]> > wrote: > > An answer depends on how “early” you’re talking about film (1890s? > later?), and about video (Broadcast TV or Portapak?). Probably the most > significant common feature is the fixed camera position. > > The most significant difference (beyond the obvious one of resolution) is > shot duration. Video (portpak on) allowed for remarkably long shots > compared to almost all film. > > If you (or anyone) can find it, Noel Burch’s film “Correction Please, or > How We Got Into Pictures” is a great explanation of the evolution of early > films' means and style, concentrating on how the audience was shaped by the > evolving formal elements of cinema. > > Chuck Kleinhans > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing > [email protected]https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
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