On a related note: could someone please post Jane Brakhage's poem "The Birth 
Film"?  It's in The Film Culture Reader, edited by  P. Adam Sitney, and I can't 
find a version of the book or the poem online.  I would really like to have it.

Thanks!

j

On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:42 PM, John Muse <jm...@sonic.net> wrote:

> We're trying!
> 
> On Feb 2, 2016, at 6:41 PM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> how about just asking her?
>> 
>> 2016-02-02 19:29 GMT-04:00 John Muse <jm...@sonic.net>:
>> Thanks, Jon.  We're coalescing around 18fps, both because it's "definitive" 
>> and because the program will now include 24 silent, 24 sound, and 18 silent. 
>>  Students need to get a feel for these distinctions.
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2016, at 5:47 PM, Jon Dieringer <jon.dierin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Carolee goes back and forth on this, but recently specified to EAI and 
>>> Anthology her preference for 18fps. (That is the speed at which it is 
>>> showing at her current show at Museum der Moderne, Salzburg.) But I think 
>>> it's fair to say that there isn't a "definitive" speed.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> http://www.caroleeschneemann.com/fuses.html
>>> 
>>> it says running time 18 minutes so if the film measures x amount of feet it 
>>> can be calculated at what speed to project.... right? 24fps seems more 
>>> likely.
>>> 
>>> 2016-02-02 17:27 GMT-04:00 John Muse <jm...@sonic.net>:
>>> Hive Mind!  So tomorrow at Haveford College we're doing this thing: 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/events/1070809686314585
>>> 
>>> We can't seem to get a clear and definitive answer on the projection speed 
>>> of Carolee Schneemann's Fuses.  Canyon doesn't know for sure, but helpfully 
>>> provided this:
>>> 
>>>>>> Anthology screens Fuses at 18fps, but acknowledges that it's difficult to
>>>>>> be sure with Schneemann's films. I've done a bit of digging on our end
>>>>>> and it seems like Canyon, at least since the printing of the last
>>>>>> catalogue, has given instructions to screen the prints we hold at 24fps.
>>> 
>>> Anyone have a story to tell?  Advice to give?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
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