If there any way of finding out if the printing elements of different versions still exist? Or did all the prints from a certain date on were printed from the same source ? That may mean that all current variations date from an earlier date.
2016-02-08 0:58 GMT-04:00 Seth Mitter <seth.mit...@gmail.com>: > NYPL reserve film & video collection appears to have 3 prints of REPORT > http://catalog.nypl.org/record=b17632181~S1 > > > On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Kelsey Velez <kelsve...@hotmail.com> > wrote: > >> The print at SAIC was acquired from the Conner family trust, so it's >> likely that the print you saw ('67) was the same as the one I'm referring >> to. Just a guess. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Feb 6, 2016, at 12:45, John Muse <jm...@sonic.net> wrote: >> > >> > Thanks, Kelsey. I only know the (gorgeously printed) version available >> from Michelle Silva and the Conner Family Trust, which was until a few >> minutes ago also up at Ubuweb. Do you mean that SAIC has the version that >> Mosen describes? Or the '67 version now in distribution? >> > >> >> On Feb 6, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Kelsey Velez <kelsve...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> The School of the Art Institute is in possession of a different >> version of Report than the one mentioned. The sequence at the beginning of >> the film is footage of the motorcade just before the moment Mr. Kennedy was >> shot. If memory serves me right, the soundtrack begins the same way in the >> version at SAIC as it does in the version mentioned by Herb. Don't quote >> me, though. It was printed and purchased in 2014. >> >> >> >> FYI. >> >> Kelsey >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 09:15, John Muse <jm...@sonic.net> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Excellent! Thanks, Herb. Great screening idea: it would be very >> interesting. >> >>> >> >>>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Herb Shellenberger <htsh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Eight. >> >>>> >> >>>> "Report was actually shown in eight different versions – all of >> equal duration and with the same soundtrack – after its initial premiere at >> the Harvard Film Society in 1964. The final version – after which the >> previous iterations were destroyed, if they hadn’t already been obliterated >> in the process of revision – was not completed until 1967. " >> >>>> http://sensesofcinema.com/2009/cteq/report/ >> >>>> >> >>>> Depending on when collections acquired the film it could be >> different. I've wanted for a while to do a screening of as many prints of >> the film as possible, a report on Report. But that might end up being not >> too interesting in the end. >> >>>> >> >>>> -h >> >>>> >> >>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:07 PM, John Muse <jm...@sonic.net> wrote: >> >>>> Having just screened a 16mm print of Report rented from Michelle >> Silva and the Conner Family Trust and having watched the version up at UBU >> several times http://ubu.com/film/conner_report.html I am surprised when >> I read a 1966 review of Report by Robert Mosen (Film Quarterly, Vol. 19, >> No. 3, Spring, 1966, pp. 54-56) who describes the film this way: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Conner opens Report with several minutes of a printed film loop of >> Jackie and Caroline as they approach, kneel at, and walk away from >> Kennedy's coffin which is lying in state. >> >>>> >> >>>> And then: >> >>>> >> >>>>> We go through a few loops before the sound track begins. It is a >> radio newscast of the five minutes of routine Dallas motorcade that >> preceded the assassination. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Finally: >> >>>> >> >>>>> What follows the film loop and occupies the remaining ten minutes >> of the film can only be described as a tour de force of implicational >> montage. The image is a constant shuffle of several groups of footage. The >> first thing we see is a close-up of matador and bull in the thick of battle. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> This sounds like a different film. How many versions were there? >> What would Mosen likely have seen? >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks. >> >>>> >> >>>> j/PrM >> >>>> >> >>>> ************************************************* >> >>>> >> >>>> john muse >> >>>> visiting assistant professor of independent college programs >> >>>> haverford college >> >>>> http://www.finleymuse.com >> >>>> http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/jmuse >> >>>> http://haverford.academia.edu/JohnMuse >> >>>> >> >>>> ************************************************* >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >> >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >> >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >>> >> >>> j/PrM >> >>> >> >>> ************************************************* >> >>> >> >>> john muse >> >>> visiting assistant professor of independent college programs >> >>> haverford college >> >>> http://www.finleymuse.com >> >>> http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/jmuse >> >>> http://haverford.academia.edu/JohnMuse >> >>> >> >>> ************************************************* >> > >> > j/PrM >> > >> > ************************************************* >> > >> > john muse >> > visiting assistant professor of independent college programs >> > haverford college >> > http://www.finleymuse.com >> > http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/jmuse >> > http://haverford.academia.edu/JohnMuse >> > >> > ************************************************* >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
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