Having distributed REPORT for many years at Canyon Cinema there are multiple versions of this film some with minor changes, etc. This is also very much true for Cosmic Ray. Although I tried to be consistent at Canyon with having same versions, this was difficult to achieve. The same is true with many prints of Kenneth Anger that were not released by UCLA. I have faith that the BC Family Estate and UCLA (for Anger) have released the versions that the artist had intended.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com> wrote: > If there any way of finding out if the printing elements of different > versions still exist? Or did all the prints from a certain date on were > printed from the same source ? That may mean that all current variations > date from an earlier date. > > 2016-02-08 0:58 GMT-04:00 Seth Mitter <seth.mit...@gmail.com>: > >> NYPL reserve film & video collection appears to have 3 prints of REPORT >> http://catalog.nypl.org/record=b17632181~S1 >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 12:34 PM, Kelsey Velez <kelsve...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> The print at SAIC was acquired from the Conner family trust, so it's >>> likely that the print you saw ('67) was the same as the one I'm referring >>> to. Just a guess. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> > On Feb 6, 2016, at 12:45, John Muse <jm...@sonic.net> wrote: >>> > >>> > Thanks, Kelsey. I only know the (gorgeously printed) version >>> available from Michelle Silva and the Conner Family Trust, which was until >>> a few minutes ago also up at Ubuweb. Do you mean that SAIC has the version >>> that Mosen describes? Or the '67 version now in distribution? >>> > >>> >> On Feb 6, 2016, at 10:34 AM, Kelsey Velez <kelsve...@hotmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> The School of the Art Institute is in possession of a different >>> version of Report than the one mentioned. The sequence at the beginning of >>> the film is footage of the motorcade just before the moment Mr. Kennedy was >>> shot. If memory serves me right, the soundtrack begins the same way in the >>> version at SAIC as it does in the version mentioned by Herb. Don't quote >>> me, though. It was printed and purchased in 2014. >>> >> >>> >> FYI. >>> >> Kelsey >>> >> >>> >> Sent from my iPhone >>> >> >>> >>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 09:15, John Muse <jm...@sonic.net> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Excellent! Thanks, Herb. Great screening idea: it would be very >>> interesting. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 5, 2016, at 10:13 AM, Herb Shellenberger <htsh...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Eight. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> "Report was actually shown in eight different versions – all of >>> equal duration and with the same soundtrack – after its initial premiere at >>> the Harvard Film Society in 1964. The final version – after which the >>> previous iterations were destroyed, if they hadn’t already been obliterated >>> in the process of revision – was not completed until 1967. " >>> >>>> http://sensesofcinema.com/2009/cteq/report/ >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Depending on when collections acquired the film it could be >>> different. I've wanted for a while to do a screening of as many prints of >>> the film as possible, a report on Report. But that might end up being not >>> too interesting in the end. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -h >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 11:07 PM, John Muse <jm...@sonic.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Having just screened a 16mm print of Report rented from Michelle >>> Silva and the Conner Family Trust and having watched the version up at UBU >>> several times http://ubu.com/film/conner_report.html I am surprised >>> when I read a 1966 review of Report by Robert Mosen (Film Quarterly, Vol. >>> 19, No. 3, Spring, 1966, pp. 54-56) who describes the film this way: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Conner opens Report with several minutes of a printed film loop of >>> Jackie and Caroline as they approach, kneel at, and walk away from >>> Kennedy's coffin which is lying in state. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> And then: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> We go through a few loops before the sound track begins. It is a >>> radio newscast of the five minutes of routine Dallas motorcade that >>> preceded the assassination. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Finally: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> What follows the film loop and occupies the remaining ten minutes >>> of the film can only be described as a tour de force of implicational >>> montage. The image is a constant shuffle of several groups of footage. The >>> first thing we see is a close-up of matador and bull in the thick of battle. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> This sounds like a different film. How many versions were there? >>> What would Mosen likely have seen? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> j/PrM >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ************************************************* >>> >>>> >>> >>>> john muse >>> >>>> visiting assistant professor of independent college programs >>> >>>> haverford college >>> >>>> http://www.finleymuse.com >>> >>>> http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/jmuse >>> >>>> http://haverford.academia.edu/JohnMuse >>> >>>> >>> >>>> ************************************************* >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> >>>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> >>>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >>> >>> >>> j/PrM >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************* >>> >>> >>> >>> john muse >>> >>> visiting assistant professor of independent college programs >>> >>> haverford college >>> >>> http://www.finleymuse.com >>> >>> http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/jmuse >>> >>> http://haverford.academia.edu/JohnMuse >>> >>> >>> >>> ************************************************* >>> > >>> > j/PrM >>> > >>> > ************************************************* >>> > >>> > john muse >>> > visiting assistant professor of independent college programs >>> > haverford college >>> > http://www.finleymuse.com >>> > http://www.haverford.edu/faculty/jmuse >>> > http://haverford.academia.edu/JohnMuse >>> > >>> > ************************************************* >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > >
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