Dave Tetzlaff- 'The companion pieces are opposites, ‘Leche’
dreamy-positive; ‘Mala Leche’ fetid-negative, but each, in their own way,
ideologically clueless and corrupt.''

Which makes me wonder why do most filmmakers when making
''social''/''ethnographic'' films usually go outside their own group and
choose some ''outsider'' group? After all the group they know the best is
their own so why not make films about their own people? Because most times
when they look out they get everything wrong and the films end up a mess....

2016-11-17 12:28 GMT-04:00 Linda Fenstermaker <lindafensterma...@gmail.com>:

> Thank you all for the inspiring links and title suggestions. Dave, I agree
> that this is a relatively unexplored subject for experimental makers, which
> is why I put out a call to see if others knew of more films that dealt with
> farming than I did. I am also a filmmaker that works on a small scale
> vegetable farm in the Northwest and am constantly inspired by the work and
> surroundings. I am interested in where films inspired by farming falls
> between landscape film, documentary and experimental works. Thanks again
> for all the leads!
>
> Linda Fenstermaker
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dave Tetzlaff <djte...@gmail.com>
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
> Cc:
> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2016 19:44:30 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films on Farming
> > Mala Leche (2003) by Naomi Uman
>
> 'Mala Leche' is a racist/classist/xenophobic POS about a Mexican immigrant
> family living in a slum in California.
>
> The film about farming is just ‘Leche’ (1998) a totally romanticized
> vision of life on a rural Mexican dairy farm, then the home of the family
> later featured in ‘Mala Leche’.
> The companion pieces are opposites, ‘Leche’ dreamy-positive; ‘Mala Leche’
> fetid-negative, but each, in their own way, ideologically clueless and
> corrupt.
> ______________
>
> A wonderful, unorthodox (if not exactly experimental) farming related
> short film: Chuck Statlers ‘Ain’t We Having Fun’ — scenes from the annual
> turkey festival in Worthington, MN.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwYvMcqRmI
>
> Back in the previous decade when I was attending UFVA regularly, I saw
> several experimental shorts about animal rights issue in terms of animal
> farming and slaughter made by a PhD student than at Kansas named Mark von
> Schlemmmer. I just Googled him, and he’s teaching at Central Missouri know.
> He has a Youtube page at: https://www.youtube.com/pl
> aylist?list=PL7691C304BAC252F5
> As I recall the pieces, what they lack in polish may be made offset for
> your purpose by the subject and the passion applied to it.
> ______________
>
> It seems to me a lot of the requests here for ‘experimental films about
> [topic X]’ are for topics not only where few, if any, experimental films
> exist, but also, like ‘farming’, the sort of concrete subjects experimental
> films rarely if ever actually address or illuminate even when some element
> of that topic has been in front of the lens.
>
> That said, ‘farming’ strikes me as a kind of rich but unexplored territory
> for inspiration or connection or material for many of the kinds of things
> experimental makers do.
> It’s certainly true that most makers have lived in and taken images from
> cities. When leaving the urban, experimental work has most often been
> wrapped up in Romantic concepts of ‘nature’. (I had to laugh at Adam’s
> reference to "tilling fields & harvesting crops and working the soil’.)
> Farming’ is pretty much marked by taming nature and bending it to a sort of
> broad social will, with as much high tech as any big industry. So if an
> experimental maker got out to farmland as it actually is, there’d be all
> kinds of objects and actions that could serve as ostrananie to city folks,
> and be grist for the mill of creative eyes and minds: giant combine
> machines and elevators and irrigation systems, de-tasseling brigades…
> Someone could do a cool ‘found footage’ piece cu from the TV ads that play
> in Iowa, both local spots and big-budget high-production-value campaigns
> for hybrid seed brands, fertilizer, herbicides and insecticides…. "Whether
> you incorporate you atrazine or add it later, we have the right stuff for
> you!"
>
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