I shot a roll of the agfa/wittner and had it processed at Dwayne's Photo. I
was really unhappy with the green cast. I'm planning to try some old
Ektachrome VNF thats been frozen since new. Anyone have experience with
7250 or 2283 and processing it as E6?

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Amanda Thomson <tea.ama...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> I've also shot 3383 in camera.  The main thing to keep in mind (aside from
> it needing lots of light) is that it's expecting the orange mask of colour
> negative so it makes everything super blue if processed in E6 (1st dev
> 1min, 2nd dev 2 mins, blix 2 mins, stab 30 sec).  You can put orange
> filters in your camera to compensate.  Alternately if processed to negative
> its orange.
>
> I've also used the Agfa/Wittner/Aviphot stock it's quite grainy, which
> seems especially noticable when transfered digitally.  It has an orange
> brownish leaning.  I'm curious to shoot some green now though.
>
> Amanda
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 4:00 AM, <frameworks-requ...@jonasmekasfilms.com>
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>>    1. 16mm E6 - Wittner vs. Agfa (Dan Anderson)
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>>    3. Re: 16mm E6 - Wittner vs. Agfa (Scott Dorsey)
>>    4. Elmo Xenon CX-350 (Michael Walsh)
>>    5. Re: Elmo Xenon CX-350 (Francisco Torres)
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>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dan Anderson <bcfilmf...@gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:48:37 -0600
>> Subject: [Frameworks] 16mm E6 - Wittner vs. Agfa
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Wondering if there are any E6 color reversal enthusiasts here that have
>> used Wittner Chrome 200D and/or Agfa Aviphot 200D ??
>>
>> Looked for tests on YouTube, and the Wittner looks better, although it's
>> hard to judge due to different types of footage and transfer qualities..
>> I'm interested in using it for optical printing and maybe in-camera...
>> Hand-developing if I get ambitious.
>>
>> And for extra credit.. Anyone ever try using Kodak 3383 print stock in a
>> camera?
>>
>> Thanks!!
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Pip Chodorov <framewo...@re-voir.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 18:54:02 +0100
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm E6 - Wittner vs. Agfa
>> Hey Dan,
>> Wittner repackaged Agfa's stock, so it's exactly the same stuff.
>> This was originally designed for arial photography, perhaps for mapmaking
>> or topography.
>> Therefore it has a certain look and is especially receptive to green.
>> I doubt it will look good in the optical printer (you will need a CTB
>> filter because it's balanced for daylight). Hand developing is easy in E6.
>> -Pip
>>
>>
>>
>> At 11:48 -0600 23/01/17, Dan Anderson wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Wondering if there are any E6 color reversal enthusiasts here that have
>>> used Wittner Chrome 200D and/or Agfa Aviphot 200D ??
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Scott Dorsey <klu...@panix.com>
>> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:00:46 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm E6 - Wittner vs. Agfa
>> I think the Wittner and Agfa films are the same film off of one big jumbo
>> that was released a couple years back.  When it is gone it is likely gone.
>>
>> 3383 is very slow but if you can stand one or two seconds per frame it
>> could be interesting.
>> --scott
>>
>>
>>
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>> From: Michael Walsh <sliderulebl...@gmail.com>
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>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:14:37 -0900
>> Subject: [Frameworks] Elmo Xenon CX-350
>> Hello All,
>> I have a 16mm Elmo Xenon CX-350 projector. The amplifier is not working
>> and I'm wondering where to send out for repair.
>> Any leads appreciated!
>> -Michael Walsh
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:18:45 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Elmo Xenon CX-350
>> where are you located?
>>
>> 2017-01-23 14:14 GMT-04:00 Michael Walsh <sliderulebl...@gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>> I have a 16mm Elmo Xenon CX-350 projector. The amplifier is not working
>>> and I'm wondering where to send out for repair.
>>> Any leads appreciated!
>>> -Michael Walsh
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>> From: Ryder White <ryder.wh...@gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 11:21:08 -0800
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm E6 - Wittner vs. Agfa
>> Hey Dan,
>>
>> I've shot and processed a few rolls of the Agfa aviphot and like Pip says
>> hand processing in E6 is very doable. I found it to be a pretty tolerant
>> stock for that, but then again my QC is not very exacting so take that with
>> a grain of salt.
>>
>> I know of a few people who have used 3383 as a camera stock, myself
>> included, and it is worth experimenting with since it's so (comparatively)
>> cheap. Rate it around 6 asa and treat it more like a tungsten stock. If you
>> get outside in the bright sun with a fast lens you might be able to shoot
>> it at something close to 24fps. It's also possible to cross process it to a
>> positive in E6. Getting a standard, well-balanced image is not something
>> I've been able to do with 3383 (could also be my processing, as mentioned
>> before) but it's very well-suited to abstraction...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> R
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Scott Dorsey <klu...@panix.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the Wittner and Agfa films are the same film off of one big jumbo
>>> that was released a couple years back.  When it is gone it is likely
>>> gone.
>>>
>>> 3383 is very slow but if you can stand one or two seconds per frame it
>>> could be interesting.
>>> --scott
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>> From: Michael Walsh <sliderulebl...@gmail.com>
>> To: Experimental Film Discussion List <frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com>
>> Cc:
>> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:25:14 -0900
>> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Elmo Xenon CX-350
>> The projector and I are located in Anchorage Alaska
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Francisco Torres <fjtorre...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> where are you located?
>>>
>>> 2017-01-23 14:14 GMT-04:00 Michael Walsh <sliderulebl...@gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>> Hello All,
>>>> I have a 16mm Elmo Xenon CX-350 projector. The amplifier is not working
>>>> and I'm wondering where to send out for repair.
>>>> Any leads appreciated!
>>>> -Michael Walsh
>>>>
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