Hi Lindsay,
Here are some titles I mentioned during a 'self-mythology' workshop I took - 
some oblique approaches to autobio filmmaking! Some will be familiar of course.

Pyaasa (Guru Dutt) (not biographical but clearly big identification between 
filmmaker and hero)
Weather Diaries (George Kuchar)
Perfumed Nightmare (Kidlat Tahimik)
Thus a Noise Speaks (Kaori Oda) - (short)
Cowards Bend The Knee (Guy Maddin)
Epidemic (Lars Von Trier) (meta-film about filmmaking)works of Tomislav Gotovac.

Appreciating the thread!
Thanks,Graeme.

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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:27:11 +0000
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Lindsay,

Some ideas re: autobiographical


Ariel Teal?s Becoming<http://arielkateteal.com/BECOMING-1>

Neil Goldberg?s My Parents Read Dreams I?ve Had About 
Them<https://neilgoldberg.com/work_dreams.htm>

Carrie Hawks? black enuf<https://www.blackenuf.com/>

Scott Fitzpatrick<https://vimeo.com/artbarbarian>?s Fifth Metacarpal

Drew Durepos? Elder Abuse<https://vimeo.com/256346126>

Jenni Olson?s Blue 
Diary<https://www.frameline.org/distribution/distribution-catalog/distribution-film-index/blue-diary>


Thanks for instigating this thread. "Following,? as they say.


Carl

Milwaukee


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Subject: [Frameworks] Autobiographical Films

Hi Frameworkers,

I the wisdom of the list-serve. I'm looking for some good, available, 
(preferably short) autobiographical, auto-ethnographic or even fictionalized 
autobiographical films. Maybe some that are off the beaten path or new to the 
world. Experimental or otherwise. Can anyone think of funny ones? Indigenous 
makers or people of colour, female, non-binary, suggestions are great but any 
and all suggestions are very welcome. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Lindsay McIntyre


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Lindsay, also and but of course, the work of another colleague:


Kym McDaniel?s Exit Strategy 
series<https://www.kymmcdaniel.com/exit-strategy-1/> (#1-#6)


Carl
Milwaukee

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Lindsay,

Some ideas re: autobiographical


Ariel Teal?s Becoming<http://arielkateteal.com/BECOMING-1>

Neil Goldberg?s My Parents Read Dreams I?ve Had About 
Them<https://neilgoldberg.com/work_dreams.htm>

Carrie Hawks? black enuf<https://www.blackenuf.com/>

Scott Fitzpatrick<https://vimeo.com/artbarbarian>?s Fifth Metacarpal

Drew Durepos? Elder Abuse<https://vimeo.com/256346126>

Jenni Olson?s Blue 
Diary<https://www.frameline.org/distribution/distribution-catalog/distribution-film-index/blue-diary>


Thanks for instigating this thread. "Following,? as they say.


Carl

Milwaukee


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Subject: [Frameworks] Autobiographical Films

Hi Frameworkers,

I the wisdom of the list-serve. I'm looking for some good, available, 
(preferably short) autobiographical, auto-ethnographic or even fictionalized 
autobiographical films. Maybe some that are off the beaten path or new to the 
world. Experimental or otherwise. Can anyone think of funny ones? Indigenous 
makers or people of colour, female, non-binary, suggestions are great but any 
and all suggestions are very welcome. Any ideas?

Thanks in advance,

Lindsay McIntyre


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steve reinke's 100 videos:
http://www.myrectumisnotagrave.com/100videos/100videosplash.html

and to complicate it all, this:
http://www.myrectumisnotagrave.com/writing/logue.html

On Wed, Sep 12, 2018 at 11:39 AM Carl E Bogner <[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
> Lindsay, also and but of course, the work of another colleague:
>
>
> Kym McDaniel?s Exit Strategy series
> <https://www.kymmcdaniel.com/exit-strategy-1/> (#1-#6)
>
>
> Carl
> Milwaukee
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* FrameWorks <[email protected]> on behalf of
> Carl E Bogner <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 12, 2018 11:27 AM
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Autobiographical Films
>
>
>
> Lindsay,
>
> Some ideas re: autobiographical
>
>
> Ariel Teal?s Becoming <http://arielkateteal.com/BECOMING-1>
>
> Neil Goldberg?s My Parents Read Dreams I?ve Had About Them
> <https://neilgoldberg.com/work_dreams.htm>
>
> Carrie Hawks? black enuf <https://www.blackenuf.com/>
>
> Scott Fitzpatrick <https://vimeo.com/artbarbarian>?s Fifth Metacarpal
>
> Drew Durepos? Elder Abuse <https://vimeo.com/256346126>
>
> Jenni Olson?s Blue Diary
> <https://www.frameline.org/distribution/distribution-catalog/distribution-film-index/blue-diary>
>
>
> Thanks for instigating this thread. "Following,? as they say.
>
>
> Carl
>
> Milwaukee
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* FrameWorks <[email protected]> on behalf of
> lindsay mcintyre <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:59 PM
> *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
> *Subject:* [Frameworks] Autobiographical Films
>
> Hi Frameworkers,
>
> I the wisdom of the list-serve. I'm looking for some good, available,
> (preferably short) autobiographical, auto-ethnographic or even
> fictionalized autobiographical films. Maybe some that are off the beaten
> path or new to the world. Experimental or otherwise. Can anyone think of
> funny ones? Indigenous makers or people of colour, female, non-binary,
> suggestions are great but any and all suggestions are very welcome. Any
> ideas?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Lindsay McIntyre
>
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I have a number of C mount 16mm lenses for sale.  Contact me at [email protected] 
if you are interested in:


17-85 mm f 3.8 Berthiot Pan-Cinor lens
10 mm f 1.6 Kern lens
Angenieux f 2.2 12-120 mm lens


I'll put them up on Ebay if I don't hear from Frameworkers, but I thought I'd 
give everyone there first dibs. 


Peter Rose


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Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2018 23:32:06 -0700
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Continuing along Jonathan's line of inquiry, courtesy BAMPFA's Film Library
and Study Center. I know McCall's Line Describing a Cone is from 1973 but
I'm not familiar with the dates in the rest of his filmography so here's
the full dump.

Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number One (1966): no McCall.
Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two (1969): no McCall.
Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number One
(1969): no McCall.
Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Two
(1970): no McCall.
Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Two Supplement Number Three
(1970): no McCall. Curt McDowell makes a first appearance with A Visit to
Indiana (1970).
Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three (1972): no McCall.
Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement (1973): no
McCall.
Canyon Cinema Cooperative Catalogue Number Three Supplement Number Two
(1974): no McCall.
Combined with my previous email, the only McCall work available in Canyon
catalogs #4-#8 was Light Describing a Cone.

Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #4 (1967): no McCall. Lots of
Markopoulos though!
Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #5 (1971): no McCall.
Film-Makers' Cooperative Catalogue #6 (1975): no McCall.

Light Cone Additif Avril 1991: no McCall.
Light Cone Catalogue (Mars 1994): no McCall.
Light Cone Catalogue 1997: Line Describing a Cone only. 250F.
Light Cone Catalogue 2001: Line Describing a Cone only. 55 ?.

LUX catalogs were not available on my visit today.

A few bonus publications:
Filmmakers Co-Operatives Catalogue of Independent Film (1975/76) &
Supplement (January 1977). These are Australian publications representing
co-ops in Brisbane, Perth, Hobart, Sydney, Melbourne, plus the South
Australia Media Resources Centre (Adelaide). But no McCall.

Film Programmer's Guide to 16mm Rentals, Third Edition (1980). Edited by
Kathleen Weaver, Associate Editor Richard Prelinger, Consulting Editor
Linda J. Artel. Lists Line Describing a Cone as available from CAN (Canyon)
for $40. I'm realizing now that I didn't check the other titles in that
book. Will circle back and check, sorry.

As an aside, I completely forgot about that book. Seeing the cover (below)
transported me back to John Schofill's kitchen table in Chicago, mid-80s,
making lists of films to show at Randolph St Gallery. Also forgot to
mention it to Rick Prelinger who chatted with Kelly Sears about her work
after tonight's screening at BAMPFA.

Also below:  I don't recall seeing those Lenny Lipton designs before.

Eric



On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 9:06 AM Eric Theise <[email protected]> wrote:

> Canyon #4 (1976), #5 (1982), #6 (1988), #7 (1992), #8 (2000): Light
> Describing a Cone is the only work available. I've also checked the
> supplements from 1988, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1995.
>
> McCall is not even in the Film-makers' Coop catalog #7 (1989).
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 7:58 AM Ken Eisenstein <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have the following hard copies of Canyon:
>>
>> #4-1976
>> #7-1992
>> no no.-2000
>>
>> plus
>> Supplements from 93,94,95
>>
>> and can check through them later today
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Walley <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Frameworkers,
>>>
>>> I know you all have better things to do, but if anyone has 1) a spare
>>> moment or two, and 2) old print copies of Canyon Cinema or Filmmakers?
>>> Co-op catalogs, I have a question.
>>>
>>> Currently, only two of Anthony McCall?s solid light films are available
>>> for rental from Co-ops: *Line Describing a Cone* and *Conical Solid *(this
>>> includes Canyon, FMC, Light Cone, and LUX). I believe I recall that *Cone
>>> of Variable Volume* and *Partial Cone* were once available from at
>>> least some of these co-ops (not sure about *Long Film for Four
>>> Projectors*, but I?ll throw that into the mix, too).
>>>
>>> Can anyone confirm? This means going rather far back, as I assume that
>>> the availability of these films changed after ?Into the Light? and McCall?s
>>> new cycle of solid light films, circa 2001/2/3.
>>>
>>> Back when you could event rent a *Yellow Movie*, at least from FMC. Ah,
>>> the days before moving image art.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any info, ideas, suggestions.
>>> All best,
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr. Jonathan Walley
>>> Associate Professor and Chair
>>> Department of Cinema
>>> Denison University
>>>
>>>
>>>
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