I concur with both pieces of advice, particularly having the projector as far 
back as possible and the camera further back from the projector.  I would add 
that high grade A3 print paper works well as a low-budget screen.

Rob

> On 27 Feb 2019, at 13:03, Christopher Ball <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I had no problem with light bleed from the projector, and the further 
> distance meant I could be more in line with the projected image, which helped 
> with key stoning but more importantly made the light image more even, and I 
> didn't have a centre hot sport with darker edges.  
> 
> Yes, I remember now, I did not use the screen (I was shooting this in my 
> theatre) I used a new piece of ROSCO 216 diffusion gel, which is even white 
> and no texture.  I had that mounted flat on my screen.  
> 
> I was not adjusting the camera speed, I was adjusting the shutter speed.  
> There are probably very few projectors that run at 24fps or 18fps even, so 
> matching the fps will be nearly impossible, however if you can adjust the 
> shutter speed you can eliminated the flicker (but you need extremely fine 
> shutter speed) adjustment to make it perfect).  I would run my film for about 
> 30 seconds to fine tune the shutter speed, then reverse the image, then run 
> it forward over the leader for one final check of the shutter speed before 
> the first image came up.  I was able to eliminate the flicker that way.
> 
> C
> 
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Tetzlaff <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> I agree that off-the-wall DIY transfers can be quite good, though I’ve mainly 
> done 16mm, not S8.
> 
> The two main things are: 
> 
> 1. The camera has to be capable of running at the same frame rate as the 
> projector. (e.g. 24fps, for 16mm). You may or may not need the frame sync 
> feature in the camera that can fine tune the speed down to a fraction. 
> 
> 2. The projector must be capable of hoilding its speed steady. This is often 
> an issue with S* projectors, especially those with a mechanical variable 
> speed nob.
> 
> NOTE: for S8 especially, you aare unlikely to get the camera and projector to 
> sync up at the speed the film was shiot at (e.g. if its 18fps as most are, 
> not 24fps). As long as you can get sync at any speed (e.g. 24fps), you 
> transfer at that speed – in effect undercranking the video copy – and then 
> shift it back to the proper speed in FCP, AE, or whatever. The frame blending 
> usually isn’t noticable to most viewers, and no more a detrement than the old 
> school 24-into-30 of 5 blade telecines.
> 
> As far as physical setup:
> 
> > I then shot it onto a movie screen which has high reflectivity, and 
> > projected it so the image size was about 1 foot x 1 foot, to make a nice 
> > bright image.  
> 
> You do want a small bright image, but screem material designed for a larger 
> image isn’t necessarily the best projection surface. You want a matte white 
> surface with no visible texture. I just got a nice big white paper sheet at 
> an art store.
> 
> You should set things up in as close to complete darkness as possible. I used 
> to do it in my basement after blocking the little windows.
> 
> > I had the camera back away from the screen on a longer lens so it was as 
> > close to the projector angle as possible.
> 
> The problem with that is light bleed from the projector bouncing into the 
> camera lens. You want the fromt of the camera lens barrel in front of the 
> projector lens barrel. Putting the camera as close as possible to the right 
> side of the projector generally eliminates any objectionable keystoning. 
> Mounting the camera on a three-way still-photo head makes for easiest 
> adjustment of squaring things up. It’s hard to get viideo heads into the 
> right horizen plane.
> 
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