On 10/8/13 8:04 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
I think the fact is that most direct users of RCS use it in a very
simple way, and
it works just fine for that. with no real need for any updates or any
change.
With all due respect Julian, The more we discuss this more this really
points to the problem that FreeBSD appears to be a challenge to install
packages into such that a package moving out of base is such a big deal.
Can we fix that instead?
I mean, this change should really not be a big deal, but yet it is and
this speaks to the core of FreeBSD utility.
Not commenting on RCS here, but on the concept of moving packages out
of the base:
- For some of us, the attraction of FreeBSD is that it is a tightly
integrated system, and the base contains enough useful functionality
that we don't *have* to add a lot of packages.
- Each package that is moved out of the base system means less useful
functionality in the base system - and for me: Less reason to use
FreeBSD instead of Linux.
I absolutely see the problem of maintaining out-of-date packages in
the base system, and the desirability of making the base system less
reliant on GPL. I'm mostly troubled by the fact that there seems to
be a rather strong tendency the last few years of having steadily
less functionality in the base system - and I'm not at all convinced
that the right balance has been found here.
This discussion is not new, and I don't expect to convince any new
persons...
I'm sure other devs will disagree, but with ~15 years of FreeBSD
experience and ~13 years as a dev, my very strong opinion is that this
tightly coupled system is actually a boat anchor sinking us.
Just because no one else does it a certain way, does not mean that a
unique way of doing something is correct and/or sustainable. Maybe in
1995, 1999, or 2005 even, but not today. Especially in the context of
add-on tools like rcs.
What we need to discuss is lowering the bar to making custom installs.
I personally find that installing FreeBSD is useless until I install
"screen, zsh, vim-lite, git" why is that so manual for me? Why can't I
just register a package set somewhere so that all I have to type in is
"alfred.perlstein.devel" into a box during the installer and I get all
my packages by default?
--
Alfred Perlstein
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