On Sep 24, 2014, at 16:33, Marcel Moolenaar <mar...@xcllnt.net> wrote:

> On Sep 24, 2014, at 12:54 PM, John Baldwin <j...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 09:29:48 AM Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
>>> What is going on here?
>>> Are we still in some kind of flux and people aren't done yet or is
>>> this the intended state by virtue of noone having anything left on
>>> there TODO list?
>> Sorry to ask a dumb question, but are you sure you did the make buildworld 
>> first?  Shouldn't that have errored if it couldn't build crt1?
> The root cause problem was that MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX was not set
> to whatever it was set to during buildworld. That was easy
> enough to figure out when a bunch of things don't add up.
> But neither problem mentioned in the email had anything to
> do with MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX. Having to set the COMPILER_TYPE
> as part of an install is a bug. Entering a powerpc buildenv
> and having a compiler that builds for the host (or maybe
> just some default) is a regression.
> The only thing the FreeBSD build is good at, really, is
> building in /usr/src for the host. The rest is just not
> up to par and I think it harms FreeBSD beyond belief.

        I agree with Marcel. COMPILER_TYPE showed up before 10.0-CURRENT 
dealing with the gcc->clang cutover and caused some minor issues when 
integrating with some FreeBSD makefiles unless using the top-level make rules. 
It would be nice if it defaulted to something sane now that the build knobs 
work has been moved out to src.opts.mk .

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