On 11/15/2015 4:46 AM, NGie Cooper wrote: > >> On Nov 14, 2015, at 19:28, NGie Cooper <yaneurab...@gmail.com> wrote: > > … > >> Why were these locales removed? >> >> 58 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_COLLATE >> 59 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_CTYPE >> 60 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1/LC_TIME >> 61 OLD_DIRS+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-1 >> 62 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-13/LC_COLLATE >> 63 OLD_FILES+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-13/LC_CTYPE >> 64 OLD_DIRS+=usr/share/locale/la_LN.ISO8859-13 > > la_LN.ISO8859-1 is the old Latin locale, which is no longer installed. > Copying over locale files from a stable/10 host works, but I’m confused as to > why a bunch of locales weren’t ported over in their non-UTF-8 forms. > Thanks, >
We (DragonFly) didn't just update locales. We took the opportunity to do spring cleaning. We didn't want to be as drastic as OpenBSD which removed all encodings except for C/POSIX and UTF, but we did remove several locales intentionally. In the case of ISO8859-1: All ISO8859-* is basically obsolete. In western Europe, if somebody wants ISO-8859, they want ISO8859-15, not ISO8859-1. They are similar, but the former is tailored for western europe with "Euro" currency and 9 other symbols. It comes at the expense of removing 10 characters from ISO8859-1. There's also a common problem that users view -15 documents with -1 accidently. So there was a conscience decision to have either ISO8859-1 or ISO8859-15 but not both. For western Europe this means the ISO8859-1 versions were dropped. ISO8859-15: In the case of USA and other non-European countries, they keep -1 and dropped -15. currency based: In the case of countries where the currency symbols is not part of ISO8859, it was dropped. E.g. Costa Rica uses the Colon which is only in UTF-8, so there's no ISO8859-* encoding at all for CR. Latin: Who speaks Latin today? This was mainly an alias for 7-bit ascii. We originally dropped that, but later moved it to US-ASCII (which was just a symlink to Latin before) Bapt liked DF approach well enough that he adopted it. Even Edwin was first in desiring to clean up locales. The major update was a perfect time. Bottom line: The testsuite needs to be updated. e.g. use de_DE.ISO8859-15 intead of de_DE.ISO8859-1 For latin, replace with US-ASCII equivalent. John _______________________________________________ firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"