On Wednesday, 20 February 2002 at 18:35:37 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * Greg Lehey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020220 18:26] wrote: >> >> I'm not picking on jhb here. This is the project's fault, not any >> individual's. We need some kind of project management to coordinate >> this effort, or the results will be seriously suboptimal. I would >> certainly not like to see dillon go away because it's too difficult to >> work with the project. > > First with the code complete has it go in. Seems pretty simple > enough doesn't it?
Too simple. It's not the "code complete", it's the correct code to implement a part of the overall goal. And we should be working together, not duplicating each other's efforts. > I've had quite enough of people telling others to hold off because > "i'll have the feature any day now", or "that fix is in my local > tree". That's a detail, though admittedly one that needs to be addressed. We have more serious issues. Last Friday I asked for an overall project plan, and I still haven't seen one. Yes, we had some useful discussions, but it's still not enough. If it took Sun 8 years of (relatively) careful project planning to get their SMP up to a reasonable standard, how can we hope to succeed if we don't even decide what we're trying to do? Two years ago I spoke with you on the phone about SMP, and said that I didn't think that the project could cope with such a pervasive change. That's why I was happy when BSD[Ii] dropped both the design and the code into our lap, and we had an SMP project manager (for all of 6 months). Looking back now, we're making the same old mistakes. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message