On 15.12.2016 16:29, John Marino wrote:
Although portmaster is not releated to the FreeBSD project and is an
outside tool, there aren't any alternatives from the project itself. So
use it or die. Not a nice situation.
People have been trying to get portmaster deprecated and removed from
the
handbook but have met with resistance.
Well, yes. Because it works, has no dependencies, and there is no
equivalent replacement. Except maybe portupgrade, which has legacy
problems like poor default options.
Every single week, somebody falsely accuses the ports tree of being
broken but the accuser is the only one with the problem. What do they
all have in common? They are portmaster users. I'll iterate, saying
"portmaster works" means applying a very generous definition of "works".
Not really, no. Its not every week and often there is a misuse or
miss-understanding of portmaster.
With an argument like this you can also state there is every week a
falsely accuse, because of poudriere. This would also be true (and is).
The recommended replacements are ports-mgmt/synth and
ports-mgmt/poudriere.
These build an entire package repository that the pkg tool can use
but they
do so in clean chrooted environments, and rebuild everything that's
required
to keep a consistent ABI. Synth is more designed for a single live
system
like a desktop or a single server, whereas poudriere is what the freebsd
package build clusters use and is more designed for that type of
usage. Worth
taking a look.
These are package builders. Technically preferable, given adequate disk
space and memory, but not equivalent to portmaster.
It's like saying git and svn are not equivalent to cvs.
I have a hard time to see git in this line. Its the way you use it. Yes,
of course all three are code repositories. But one of them is a
distributed repository and the other two are not. The differences are huge.
Of course it also depends on your usage. I personally (means "heavily
subjective) find git more than annoying. It lacks very important
features (user management), is hard to use in automatic environments and
make easy things (rename/delete branches) very hard. Other people really
like all of this. It depends.
So maybe the accusers just use the wrong tool?
Greetings,
Torsten
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