On Oct 15, 2005, at 12:35 PM, Gary Kline wrote:

On Sat, Oct 15, 2005 at 12:06:30PM +0400, Andrew P. wrote:

On 10/15/05, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Fri, Oct 14, 2005 at 09:08:31PM -0500, Nikolas Britton wrote:

On 10/12/05, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

        This is to anybody with Gnome or KDE insights,

        First, both environments do work on my 400Mhz ThinkPad
(with almost 300M/SDRAM). KDE has a nicer feel for my tastes
        but the response in beyond crummy even with nearly all
        eye-candy.


Did you mean to say with all eye-candy disabled?... Have you checked out XFCE?

Intro to XFCE:
http://www.xfce.org/index.php?page=overview&lang=en

Here are some flash based demos:
http://www.xfce.org/various/flash_demos.html

The XFCE meta port is in x11-wm/xfce4 and don't forget about all the
plugins: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=XFCE&stype=all

After you install the XFCE meta port type in rehash and then
startxfce4, if you like it and want to keep it as your default desktop environment type in "echo "/usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce4" > ~/.xinitrc".
the FreeBSD handbook as a bit about XFCE in section 5.7.4
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x11- wm.html

I use KDE on my fast systems and XFCE on the slow ones.



        I'll give xfce a try.  Again.  I  played with it months ago
        but gave up on it after a few days.  Can I run all KDE-ware
        and Gnome suites too?

        Thanks for the pointers!

        gary



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Many FreeBSD users came to love Fluxbox. It's
a windowmaker-based manager, very nice, very
lightweight. It's not an environment, so there are
no file managers, viewers, keyrings, etc. included.
But it has some support for both KDE and Gnome
programs, so you can easily install any Gnome-
based tool (it'll also install some parts of Gnome,
but not all of it). It has no conflicts with Gnome/
KDE, so you can install and see if you like it.


    You know, what I'd like my wm to be able to do is
    set <whatever> app (say xload)

    /usr/bin/nice -n -17 xload -g 50x90+0+0 &

    so that I'll be able to nice it down to some low  value,
    control the placing and size of the app, and so on.
    I assume that Gnome/KDE (and their light versions)
    have some ~user/.* XML files where things are tuned,
    but grep  -r .* hasn't found anything ...
    Is there/Where is the files that list the apps so that
    I can set up things and season-to-my-tastes?

    For me, functioality is more imortant than how "pretty"
    things look.

    gary

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You should be able to accomplish that via fluxbox the best since it lists all of the programs out in an XML file (I know I'm reaching a bit since I haven't used fluxbox in a while), somewhere in ~/.fluxbox/[something]. Also, you could setup aliases in ~/.bash_alias (see alias syntax with man alias) for your more common programs; I know it's just patching the problem, but it should do the trick.
-Garrett
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