--- Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Danial Thom wrote: > [ ... ] > >> I'm tempted to set a Followup-to: header to > >> -chat or maybe /dev/null... > > > > What exactly is wrong with all of you people > anyway? > > Why do people ask rhetorical questions? We're > not you, evidently. > > Invert the question, and I get an answer that > makes sense. > Invert the answer? You don't understand the > point, perhaps? > > Very well, let me put it another way: if your > opinions about what's wrong > differ from most other people, you might do > better to rely on a discussion > involving facts rather than opinions. I > mention this because some people > regard their own opinions so highly that they > don't seem to be aware that > other approaches exist and might even prove > effective. > > > Clearly there are drivers that are well > > supported and drivers that aren't. There are > > people out there trying to run their > businesses > > and you seem to want to pretend that > everything > > is just peachy and that everything can be > tweaked > > and tuned a bit to be usable. > > I don't know about either the OP or your > situation(s), but I'm generally of > the opinion that FreeBSD works just fine, most > of the time, on most hardware, > without any specific tweaking or tuning to be > entirely usable. > > That's true of some other platforms, such as > Apple hardware and MacOS X, or > even Sun/SPARC boxes, as well. YMMV. > > If you have specific problems or a > FreeBSD-driver to Windows-driver > performance comparison, providing #'s and > enough details to reproduce would be > helpful. Writing random flames about specific > people is not helpful. > > [ ...EOT, at least for me... ] > > -- > -Chuck > thanks for clarifying that you're more of a clown than an engineer, chuck. I'm sure that info will come in handy for others when you state your opinions. Here's the deal. When passing a controlled stream of packets (say 10Kpps) through a 5704 controller on the tyan MB, the cpu load is twice what it is when passing the exact same load through an intel card in a pci-x slot. Maybe the intel card is superior, maybe the driver is superior, but the bottom line is that the broadcom sucks in comparision. I don't care if the card works well in windows or something else; its not practical to re-write the driver, and the intel cards are cheap, so why give a rat's butt why the results are what they are; I just use something else. Perhaps you take exception to my comment about the author of the driver, but the fact is that the guy wrote 50 drivers from a template, he doesn't support them, he didn't optimize them for performance, nor did he thoroughly test most of them (since most have stupid little quirks, which is what happens when you write a driver from a template). That spells trouble to me. The intel drivers are supported on an ongoing basis and they were written specifically for the controller, so they ought to work better, even if the hardware is identical performance-wise. Its not a "flame" to say that something works better than something else. If you think that all hardware and all drivers just either work or don't, then you're not only not an engineer, but a total fool. Its sharing my experience. If you care not to listen, fine, but you're making more noise calling me names for reiterating my experience, and at least I'm conveying information that might be useful, unlike yourself. You obviously have nothing to contribute, so I don't see why you feel the need to pipe in with an uneducated opinion. DT __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"