On Thu, Oct 19, 2006 at 12:54:02PM +0100, Jan Grant wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006, Gary Kline wrote:
> I would have suggested the DNS approach except that when I looked, 
> tao.thought.org didn't exist in your DNS (as an A record) and since ns1 
> looked like a dialup account, I assumed you're using NAT.

        thought.org has a slow IDSL     link to my ISP, not a dialup. 
        I read, then bot DNS AND BIND; here is what has worked since an
        early bind9.

;    Machines for the thought.org domain
;name    class    type    IP
localhost  IN A
; Next I list my main host, which is my domain
; and mail, and web servers.
ns1.thought.org.        IN A
sage.thought.org.       IN A

> Your mailertable entry on ns1 should probably just read
> thought.org   relay:tao.thought.org
>       or maybe
> thought.org   smtp:tao.thought.org

        Which is better? and why?  Or are they equiv?

> and tao.thought.org should have "thought.org" in it's w class: that is, 
> sendmail.cw or local-whatever-the-file-is-called.

        I did have a "local-host-names", but then simply dropped the "w"
        Class into sendmail.cf.  I do have "Cw thought.org" in the config
        file. I only have 4 or 5 Unix servers, (4 right now since one
        finally died:), so I simplified.   Besides, I wasn't sure if the 
        "local-host-names" required just the short hostname or the FQDN.

> You might need "makemap" to recreate the database from your plain file.


> I suspect that you have an alias set up on ns1 that you're fiddling 
> with. In order to get it to stick, you probably need to run 
> "newaliases". Since that's run on reboot if required, that'd explain 
> your reboot-to-reconfigure behaviour.

        I did have a commented-out kline -> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" in
        /etc/mail/aliases.  I uncommented it yesterday, 18oct,  
        I *did* run newaliases; when things STILL
        seemed to be misbehaving, I said something like "Bleep it!"
        and rebooted.

## uncommented : 18oct06.

        So I'm really not sure WHAT got mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] going
        back to my original home machine, tao.

> Cheers,
> jan
> PS. If sendmail config is such an arcane art (and it is, unless you do 
> it regularly) you might find there's mileage in installing an 
> alternative MTA.

        Well, "ethos" is Ubuntu and comes with postfix.  Seems seriously
        better; but since mail is so utterly critical, I'm not touching
        anything until some wise mail guru is right here, holding my
        hand and sharing  a jug of Jack Daniels!!


> -- 
> jan grant, ISYS, University of Bristol. http://www.bris.ac.uk/
> Tel +44 (0)117 3317661   http://ioctl.org/jan/
> Goth isn't dead, it's just lying very still and sucking its cheeks in.

   Gary Kline     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.thought.org     Public service Unix

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