W. D. wrote:
At 21:25 5/1/2007, Garrett Cooper wrote:
W. D. wrote:
At 20:59 5/1/2007, Matt Emmerton wrote:
usw2# cd make++
usw2# ls -lt
total 5
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  1221 May  1 18:35 Makefile
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   190 May  1 18:35 distinfo
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   643 May  1 18:35 pkg-plist
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   602 Oct 17  2004 pkg-descr
usw2# make install
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5460: Malformed conditional
(defined(USE_RCORDER) || defined(USE_RC_SUBR) && ${USE_RC_SUBR:U} != "YES")
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5470: Malformed conditional
(defined(USE_RC_SUBR) && ${USE_RC_SUBR:U} != "YES")
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5481: if-less endif
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5481: Need an operator
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5958: if-less endif
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 5958: Need an operator
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue


Just ran cvsup.  Any ideas?

The ports collection is only guaranteed to work on the current release of
FreeBSD, which is 6.2.
You're running 4.4-REL, which is fairly old (~5.5 years -- Sep/2001) and you
should consider upgrading.
How do I do that without killing this production server?

Matt Emmerton
You can't unfortunately. The only way to go about this is plan out a date when you can take down the server for approximately 1-5 hours (comfortably) depending on what you need to compile / install, and the speed of the machine. Another option (not really encouraged, but available), is to take cvsup, sync to the most current 5.5 / 6.2 tree, and compile, then take down your machine quickly into single-user mode while installing the new kernel / world. The process is in gross detail here: <http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cutting-edge.html>.

Also, did you know that your mail address probably is getting marked as spam by the majority of the users on this list running anti-spam software?

Why?  What anti-spam methods are you using?

That's not true. The ports collection is supposed to work for all versions of FreeBSD which are supported, which includes 5.x.


Well, you could also roll back the port for 'make' via cvsup to a point where it does compile, but 4.4 is ancient. I think it's time to bite the bullet and upgrade.

I suggest going to at least 4.11 first. Then *maybe* a jump to 5.x , followed by a jump to 6.x.

If this is production I'd build out a 6.2 version on another machine, throw the software from box A onto Box B , then swap them quickly ( maybe just the HDDs even!), downtime would be almost nothing and you can run this "test" to work out any kinks along the way.

If that's not an option with a second machine then a staged upgrade to the latest of the major revisions ( 4.4 -> 4.11 , 4.11 -> 5.5 , 5.5 -> 6.2 ) The three staged approach should creep in the changes slowly enough so you can address problems along the way should there be any issues. A straight jump from 4.4 -> 6.2 probably won't work due to the major changes along the way (ACLs have been introduced, standard locations for various system utils have moved , etc.. ). You will probably want a settling period for each of the staged approach, say , 3 - 5 days after each one ?

Watch out for ISA cards if you have any, I attempted a jump from 4.11 -> 5.1 with problems :(

Good luck,
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